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Old 03-23-2021, 07:09 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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When is the Ukraine junta going to pay up?

https://tass.com/world/1269593
To a Russian invented terrorist entity? Umm how about never.

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In hindsight considering the current situation strategically Russia has not lost or gained. It in fact stands to force the Ukronazis not to the table, but out of power. We know their time is limited.
Russia has lost influence to determine who is elected in Ukraine. The old ways of spreading its propaganda are mostly shut down. The loyal base of soviets took a big hit demographically in 2020.

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The soured relations between the EU, US and Russia were in the cards and now that China has gotten involved indirectly the writing is on the wall for the junta.
Soured relations are because Russia attacked Ukraine for siding with us. Relations with Russia are not more important to the west than how Russia treats Ukraine. Truth hurts. China isn't taking any sides and you have no evidence that it wants to.

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I don't know when but people in Ukraine will see the writing on the wall and realize their future does not lay with the west because the west is failing in all spheres.
Polls show this to be another false statement.
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Old 03-23-2021, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Soured relations are because Russia attacked Ukraine for siding with us.
LOL. If Russia had attacked Ukraine, then there would have been Russian tanks in Kiev long ago.
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Old 03-24-2021, 12:44 AM
 
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The ad says -"...for the average Russian, seasonal work abroad is an opportunity to simultaneously earn money, get to know another country, and get to know new people. In addition, especially inquisitive people can learn a foreign language and acquire useful connections that will help them work less and earn more in the future." And now read what is written on this topic in the Financial Times.
In September last year, a 21-year-old engineering student with a native Ryazan surname, Roman Kukharchuk, packed his bags and prepared to leave Russia. He was heading to Scotland as part of a UK government pilot program, where he will work on a farm that supplies strawberries and raspberries to UK supermarkets such as Tesco and Marks and Spencer.
Kukharchuk came to the UK, which was faced with a difficult question: whether it would ever learn to do without people like him. After Brexit, the UK government's stated goal was to rid the economy of its dependence on low-paid migrants. But employers in some sectors, and a good example for this is gardening, say they can't find enough Brits to do the work.
But it turned out that the British lack decency in working relations with workers engaged in hard work in the open air. Guest worker Kukharchuk, expected hard work and long hours paid at the minimum wage in the UK. But he found that even these expectations were not fulfilled. According to him, the problem was not too much work, but that he was deprived of his job due to non-compliance with performance requirements. The workers on the farm he worked on, Castleton Fruit in the north-east of Scotland, worked under contracts and were paid for the amount of fruit they collected, rather than hourly pay. By law, collectors using this "piecework" system must receive a minimum wage of £ 8.72 per hour, even if they do not collect enough to earn this amount. Because of this, supervisors checked the work of each worker every two hours, and workers who did not meet the norm were sent back to the campsite for the rest of the day and they did not have the opportunity to earn more money. According to Kukharchuk, some weeks he was sent camping so often that he earned only between 180 and 200 pounds a week, of which he had to pay the farmer 57.40 pounds a week for camping accommodation. The farmer also checked the place of residence on a weekly basis and fined the workers £ 10 if he found "rubbish and disorder".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO4xNfUnWBw


More interesting things in the video itself and in the links under the video. Yes, it is written for Russia, but for Ukrainians, it is much more relevant
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Old 03-24-2021, 08:23 AM
 
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The ad says -"...for the average Russian, seasonal work abroad is an opportunity to simultaneously earn money, get to know another country, and get to know new people. In addition, especially inquisitive people can learn a foreign language and acquire useful connections that will help them work less and earn more in the future." And now read what is written on this topic in the Financial Times.
In September last year, a 21-year-old engineering student with a native Ryazan surname, Roman Kukharchuk, packed his bags and prepared to leave Russia. He was heading to Scotland as part of a UK government pilot program, where he will work on a farm that supplies strawberries and raspberries to UK supermarkets such as Tesco and Marks and Spencer.
Kukharchuk came to the UK, which was faced with a difficult question: whether it would ever learn to do without people like him. After Brexit, the UK government's stated goal was to rid the economy of its dependence on low-paid migrants. But employers in some sectors, and a good example for this is gardening, say they can't find enough Brits to do the work.
But it turned out that the British lack decency in working relations with workers engaged in hard work in the open air. Guest worker Kukharchuk, expected hard work and long hours paid at the minimum wage in the UK. But he found that even these expectations were not fulfilled. According to him, the problem was not too much work, but that he was deprived of his job due to non-compliance with performance requirements. The workers on the farm he worked on, Castleton Fruit in the north-east of Scotland, worked under contracts and were paid for the amount of fruit they collected, rather than hourly pay. By law, collectors using this "piecework" system must receive a minimum wage of £ 8.72 per hour, even if they do not collect enough to earn this amount. Because of this, supervisors checked the work of each worker every two hours, and workers who did not meet the norm were sent back to the campsite for the rest of the day and they did not have the opportunity to earn more money. According to Kukharchuk, some weeks he was sent camping so often that he earned only between 180 and 200 pounds a week, of which he had to pay the farmer 57.40 pounds a week for camping accommodation. The farmer also checked the place of residence on a weekly basis and fined the workers £ 10 if he found "rubbish and disorder".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO4xNfUnWBw


More interesting things in the video itself and in the links under the video. Yes, it is written for Russia, but for Ukrainians, it is much more relevant
The devil is in the details. Advertising in the west is all about DECEPTION and these slave masters have all kinds of ways to rip off workers.

What is shown as paradise and opportunity is often a concentration camp and exploitation because the people being exploited have no choice.
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Old 03-24-2021, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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Everyone knows that:

1. There is a Great People - "Ancient Ukry" Древние Укры - Ukrainians

2. They are the first people on Earth, they destroyed dinosaurs and ate all mammoths ...

3. Ukrainian language is the most ancient on Earth, it was brought from Venus

4.Many years...., 140 thousand years ago, the Ukrainians dug the Black Sea and built the Caucasus Mountains

5. The Ukrainians invented the Wheel, the Bow and ... Salo

6. The Ukrainians were the ancestors of the Sumerians ... then they built the Egyptian Pyramids

7. The Roman Empire was very strong because the Roman legionaries ate Ukrainian sausage

8. The real name of Christopher Columbus is Mykola Kolumbenko, he is a Ukrainian and discovered America

9. American Presidents Trump and Biden are actually Ukrainians. Their real names are Trumpenko and Bidenko


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Old 03-24-2021, 01:31 PM
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Location: California
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More interesting things in the video itself and in the links under the video. Yes, it is written for Russia, but for Ukrainians, it is much more relevant
Ukrainians can't get permission to work in the UK any easier than Russians can so its not more relevant for either. Students come to the US for summer jobs too, under J visas. Many do from all over Europe. I wouldn't doubt that some get exploited like that guy in your video did. I don't think its relevant now though because of the pandemic...

If you're talking about Ukrainians working abroad as guest workers in general, their number one destination is Poland followed by Czechoslovakia. Again, with the pandemic not as much happening at the current time and given Ukrainian reluctance to be vaccinated, it won't be changing anytime soon.

There is a shortage of construction workers in Ukraine but not everyone can do this kind of work... I know in the south of Ukraine there are Moldovans and Turks working on construction.
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Old 03-24-2021, 10:32 PM
 
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Ukrainians can't get permission to work in the UK any easier than Russians can so its not more relevant for either. Students come to the US for summer jobs too, under J visas. Many do from all over Europe. I wouldn't doubt that some get exploited like that guy in your video did. I don't think its relevant now though because of the pandemic...

If you're talking about Ukrainians working abroad as guest workers in general, their number one destination is Poland followed by Czechoslovakia. Again, with the pandemic not as much happening at the current time and given Ukrainian reluctance to be vaccinated, it won't be changing anytime soon.

There is a shortage of construction workers in Ukraine but not everyone can do this kind of work... I know in the south of Ukraine there are Moldovans and Turks working on construction.
DKM, try to take a look at this video, a little wider ))
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Old 03-25-2021, 01:37 PM
 
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Oh no some protestors spray painted a building in Kyiv and lit fireworks on the sidewalk! And police only arrested one of them... How dare Ukraine not shoot protesters and beat them with clubs like big stronk Russia do. The global media should be aghast, where are they? Why only Russian media care about this?

France and Germany know Ukraine has the right to shoot at armed groups inside Ukraine. All day any day if they decide to. *shrug*

It was the building of the PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE DKM, so quit pretending already.

Go spray paint the White House, break the windows there, and throw couple of the "fireworks" through them.
Report us back how it went.
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Old 03-25-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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She's saying they were betrayed because all Russia did was make sure they didn't lose their war completely. And then no annexation (which would stop all fighting too). All those people got in those areas for rebelling was a lot of misery which continues today. it's basically the 90s in Luhansk (city) now. And no shooting there to blame either.

This. If the whole of the South-East would have been annexed in the same manner as Crimea, there would have been no death and devastation that followed in these regions.

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I think in a strange way we all agree that it would be great if Russia annexed the current areas under their control and be done with it. Maybe even throw in the rest of Luhansk Oblast to sweeten the deal. But its not up to us is it.
I think they are looking at the whole of the Donbass region at this point.

But this implies more fighting for the area of course.



Although truth to be told, I think all this is actually Russia.

https://ruxpert.ru/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B...8%D1%8F_01.png


It correlates to what's being called "Novorossia governorate" back in Tzarist times.

Basically the territory that has been assigned to "Ukrainian Republic" shortly after the Revolution of the 1917, in the same manner as Crimea was *assigned* to Ukraine in 1954.

And that's precisely the part that the bleating idiots from the Western part of the country are trying to subject to the forcible Ukrainianization now.
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Old 03-25-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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American media!? They aren't talking about Ukraine. Why would they? Vast majority of Americans could not care less about any of it or Russia.

Right.
Americans usually do not preoccupy themselves with the knowledge of such places as Ukraine or Honduras, until one day they wake up with the news that their president is going to be impeached over the events in some place called "Ukraine."
Then, obviously they want to get an idea what kind place it is, but American media?
Why would it talk about Ukraine?

And if they do, they let the public know exactly what the propaganda machine dictates them.
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