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Old 04-01-2021, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Today I took Turist's advice and went to 2015 Khmelnitsky.

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.4507...7i13312!8i6656

And same view now:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.4506...7i11264!8i5632

and up that road a block:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.4505...7i11264!8i5632

More evidence of decline in the past 6 years...It's just everywhere!
As always, a local photo of a single object, and everything around froze in 2015.
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Old 04-01-2021, 07:23 AM
 
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Interesting.

https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/...a-lobby-in-the
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Russia
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You claimed inflation was up 200% using the stats on that website. The same website shows salaries increased over 300%. How is it possible that inflation was more than the salary increase? Soviet math?

I am defeated by Soviet math then.
Yes, yes, like an ostrich, this is what you need )) Very convenient ))) This is also called "selective blindness"
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Old 04-01-2021, 01:36 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Today's tour continues to Vinnitsa. (Inspired by Turist). Vinnitsa is one of the lowest income regions of Ukraine, mostly because it is one of the least industrialized regions of Ukraine ( I think it has Poroshenko's chocolate factory?). Anyway, lets see the decay since 2015:

Here we have a field six years ago:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2213...7i13312!8i6656

3 months ago:
https://goo.gl/maps/NgtNMJSgS6YmRDA18

How about the other side of town? 2015:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2354...7i13312!8i6656

2018:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2361...!7i8192!8i4096

2020:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zh...74!4d28.393411

Another new neighborhood, here is a whimsical kindergarten in the middle of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2054...!7i8000!8i4000

Ugh DKM, you are only showing the outside of a city, what about inside?

Okay 2015, even the road is crumbling:

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2309...7i13312!8i6656

Same spot 2017:
https://goo.gl/maps/LoZ8xsLCNkLGnaMy5

now:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D...!14m1!1BCgIgAQ

Further towards the city center, picture 2 weeks ago:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tu...3!4d28.4910287

All of it further evidence of western enslavement. Tomorrow where will we go next?
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Old 04-01-2021, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Today's tour continues to Vinnitsa. (Inspired by Turist). Vinnitsa is one of the lowest income regions of Ukraine, mostly because it is one of the least industrialized regions of Ukraine ( I think it has Poroshenko's chocolate factory?). Anyway, lets see the decay since 2015:

Here we have a field six years ago:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2213...7i13312!8i6656

3 months ago:
https://goo.gl/maps/NgtNMJSgS6YmRDA18

How about the other side of town? 2015:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2354...7i13312!8i6656

2018:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2361...!7i8192!8i4096

2020:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zh...74!4d28.393411

Another new neighborhood, here is a whimsical kindergarten in the middle of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2054...!7i8000!8i4000

Ugh DKM, you are only showing the outside of a city, what about inside?

Okay 2015, even the road is crumbling:

https://www.google.com/maps/@49.2309...7i13312!8i6656

Same spot 2017:
https://goo.gl/maps/LoZ8xsLCNkLGnaMy5

now:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/%D...!14m1!1BCgIgAQ

Further towards the city center, picture 2 weeks ago:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tu...3!4d28.4910287

All of it further evidence of western enslavement. Tomorrow where will we go next?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNFN5dUOd6E

Yes, yes, right here, progress and updates. And I can't see the few sleek houses that are posted on Google ))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8_Ppakls4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqGtQltcrkY&t=15s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toUaGSAYRok

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Old 04-01-2021, 03:56 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Nothing new there, just the same as it was 10 years ago. Not everything can be fixed at once.... but some parts are clearly being improved. And I have you to thank for pointing out the time capsule.
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Old 04-01-2021, 06:23 PM
 
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When I was exploring the bombing of those dams on the Crimean Canal i also took walks down the streets of some towns. The dubious conditions of some roads was obvious but the rest of the town seemed to be in good order. No one seemed rich but I saw no one starving either. One picture of a woman and 2 well dressed kids arguing while the woman held an obviously very fat and patient cat was hilarious to look at. The houses were in good order and the people were well dressed.

It was kind of normal for that part of the world in that type of setting. It really looked like a great place to raise a family.

Some of the cities though did not look so good. Obviously more used appearance with the new right next to the decrepit. Drunks on the street at bus stops and at one point an obviously dead dog left in the gutter. Not the first time I have seen that in a city of Ukraine. Mounds of garbage in some places. Shady characters.

Not the kind of place you would want to raise a family.
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Old 04-01-2021, 08:06 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Nova Kakhovka probably hasn't changed at all since I went through a long time ago... The largest communist party rally I ever saw in my life was there. Come to think of it I think it was Lenin's birthday. One of the last places that took down Lenin so it makes sense. They probably have his statue stored for safe keeping hoping to put it back up.
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Old 04-01-2021, 09:00 PM
 
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Nova Kakhovka probably hasn't changed at all since I went through a long time ago... The largest communist party rally I ever saw in my life was there. Come to think of it I think it was Lenin's birthday. One of the last places that took down Lenin so it makes sense. They probably have his statue stored for safe keeping hoping to put it back up.
For safe keeping? Or a rumble from the east coming over the horizon. One can always hope.
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Old 04-01-2021, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Russia
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For safe keeping? Or a rumble from the east coming over the horizon. One can always hope.
The funny thing is that Ukraine in its current borders exists thanks to Lenin and Stalin. On the contrary, they should worship them, and not destroy their monuments.
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