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Old 03-27-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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And one more thing.DKM tell me why all the panoramas of cities and streets in Ukraine date back to 2009-2015, and then everything, there are no fresh panoramas and streets.Not on Google Maps, not anywhere else.Only rare photos of your favorite fountains . Why is that? Maybe because there is hell and horror all around? You posted the links here, I was interested in walking around the Ukrainian cities in 2020, and I could not (only a couple of places were extinguished near Kiev) .Why is that ?
It’s a massive conspiracy, I tell you!
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Old 03-27-2021, 09:11 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Oh Odessa mama. Fascists were not stopped! Here we have the poor southern Russian speakers wishing for the golden Yanukovich years. Brave people who live there have managed to sneak out some pictures:

Nazi pigs put their flag up on that new building on the right:

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4339...!7i3024!8i4032

These poor Russian speakers forced to live in fear now in Odessa:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zh...9!4d30.7602804

The glory days of Yanukovich 2011 in Odessa:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4217...7i13312!8i6656

Has now been ruined into Turist's "horror" (same exact spot):
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4211...!7i8000!8i4000

Glorious Yanukovich era Odessa airport (Yes I flown out of this many times):
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4412...7i13312!8i6656

now a sad "western" post soviet ruin:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4421...!7i4032!8i2268

I heard the new runway at Odesa airport is secretly for NATO jets to land there!

This is fun, I'm really glad someone pointed out all the old street views that exist in Ukraine.

No doubt they will all vote to "leave" Ukraine because their cities are getting so awful.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:10 PM
 
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Oh Odessa mama. Fascists were not stopped! Here we have the poor southern Russian speakers wishing for the golden Yanukovich years. Brave people who live there have managed to sneak out some pictures:

Nazi pigs put their flag up on that new building on the right:

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4339...!7i3024!8i4032

These poor Russian speakers forced to live in fear now in Odessa:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zh...9!4d30.7602804

The glory days of Yanukovich 2011 in Odessa:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4217...7i13312!8i6656

Has now been ruined into Turist's "horror" (same exact spot):
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4211...!7i8000!8i4000

Glorious Yanukovich era Odessa airport (Yes I flown out of this many times):
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4412...7i13312!8i6656

now a sad "western" post soviet ruin:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4421...!7i4032!8i2268

I heard the new runway at Odesa airport is secretly for NATO jets to land there!

This is fun, I'm really glad someone pointed out all the old street views that exist in Ukraine.

No doubt they will all vote to "leave" Ukraine because their cities are getting so awful.

DKM...

From everything I see so far - Crimea looks much, much nicer under Russia.
That's all to it.

And while you are getting all excited about the "new airport in Odessa" ( oh look what the "European association" is doing for Ukraine! Compare it to the decrepit "association with Russia!") - start paying attention at the new airport in Simferopol, Crimea.
We understand of course that Odessa needed to come up with something more uplifted to serve the staff of the new British military base in Ochakovo, but here is something that Russia presented for Russian tourists, that are coming in droves to Crimea.

(Showed by one of the harshest Russian critics out there, since the guy is a professional architect by trade.)

So start watching closely;

This is Simferopol;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z4NNT_3zpg


And this is Odessa's "international airport," that you brag about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGpiwcuToyw&t=164s


See now, why your narrative about the "advantages of the European association" for Ukraine vs "association with Russia" is not quite working out, the way you are trying to peddle it here?
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:12 AM
DKM
 
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Simferopol airport looks great now I agree. I flew out of the old Simferopol airport too, and it was awful. None were as bad as the time I used the old Kharkov airport though and that got fixed under the Yanukovich days.

BTW the British marines don't use the Odesa airport. Not going to say more about that.

I'm not trying to use these images for anything in particular, other than showing things aren't getting so much worse in Ukraine in the physical sense and people don't seem to be fleeing the area under government control for some reason. While there are many things not going well there for certain people, I see zero evidence at all that they would ever desire to allow Russia or "DNR" bandits to take one more inch of their land. That includes former Yanukovich voters. And since I know this better than you, that's all I care about.

Plus its interesting to me to look at years ago (the SE Ukraine I know personally) and the changes since. Maybe I'll have to get over there later this summer after I get the Pfizer (if it doesn't kill me).
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:25 AM
DKM
 
Location: California
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The great DNR, Pushilin must be so proud of his hometown:

https://www.google.com/maps/@48.0479...!7i8192!8i4096

So full of life in the spring! DNR is where all the people in the SE want to be like.


They can't end up like Lvov, from where everyone fled to Europe in 2015:
https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8433...7i13312!8i6656

How about Alchevsk, the good life awaits those who want no Europe!
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.4691...7i10240!8i5120

Looks very popular. The rest of Ukraine must be excited for the Russian world to spread their way.
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Old 03-28-2021, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Originally Posted by DKM View Post
Oh Odessa mama. Fascists were not stopped! Here we have the poor southern Russian speakers wishing for the golden Yanukovich years. Brave people who live there have managed to sneak out some pictures:

Nazi pigs put their flag up on that new building on the right:

https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4339...!7i3024!8i4032

These poor Russian speakers forced to live in fear now in Odessa:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Zh...9!4d30.7602804

The glory days of Yanukovich 2011 in Odessa:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4217...7i13312!8i6656

Has now been ruined into Turist's "horror" (same exact spot):
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4211...!7i8000!8i4000

Glorious Yanukovich era Odessa airport (Yes I flown out of this many times):
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4412...7i13312!8i6656

now a sad "western" post soviet ruin:
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.4421...!7i4032!8i2268

I heard the new runway at Odesa airport is secretly for NATO jets to land there!

This is fun, I'm really glad someone pointed out all the old street views that exist in Ukraine.

No doubt they will all vote to "leave" Ukraine because their cities are getting so awful.
DKM that's what I'm talking about. Advertising photos are posted ,but it is impossible to walk along the streets of 2020,not only in border areas, anywhere at all. I found a couple of elite districts of Kiev and that's it. All street panoramas were stopped at the 2015 level .

Spot photos of the right places, there are, you can not walk through the streets of 2020. Why would that be? ))
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Old 03-28-2021, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Russia
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And DKM, you again did not see about the external debt, which this year you need to pay 15,000,000,000 dollars (fifteen billion dollars) of which 25% (twenty-five percent) is servicing, interest on the loan. How will Ukraine pay for this and is it going to?
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:22 AM
 
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What’s a stereotypical Ukrainian name - one that is different from Polish and Russian?
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:24 AM
 
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It looks like a lot of the future of Ukraine is going to Poland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_km9tEnJYc

But in fairness, I will post an opposing view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSIjq1zozI
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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Is sex trafficking a big problem in Ukraine?
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