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Old 12-20-2020, 08:33 AM
 
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Old 12-20-2020, 01:32 PM
 
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It's pretty much hopeless.
The bleating retards of Ukrainian nationalists kind do not understand economy or politics - all they know is to mooo "We Europe."
And when the Easterners are trying to explain to them with the help of their fingers such things as "European markets," "technological level," "supply of raw materials" ( Zelensky is unleashing yet again the sales of Ukrainian timber to Europe; apparently the recent floods in Carpathian Mountains didn't convince him enough of the looming disaster,)- all this is to no avail.

They keep on bleating all the same.

On a brighter side, Bloomberg is finally acknowledging the fiasco of Zelensky regime, but of course they are deceitful as the rest of American media about the true reasons behind it.

They are trying to cover it all up with the help of the usual drivel about the "fight with corruption," instead of acknowledging things for what they are - the failure of colonial policies unleashed on Ukraine by ever-righteous *justice warriors" of American Democratic Party.
And they ( still) hope that with arrival of Biden on presidential post, there is more to come for "fighting Russia till the last Ukrainian."

I don't think it's bound to happen though, they are running out of time for all this B.S., as much as they try, because not ALL Ukrainians are all that ignorant, as they hoped.

Starting from the Constitutional Court justices mentioned in the article, that figured out that those "electronic asset declarations" demanded from all Ukrainian officials by the foreign overseers were not implemented with the purpose of "fighting the corruption," but with the purpose of keeping them all on the hook, while striking deals only with the officials that serve their purpose, no matter whether they are corrupt or not.
( With other words, precisely what American ambassador M. Yovanovitch was accused of and hence booted out.)

And those so-called "market-friendly reformers" mentioned in the article (and appointed yet again by the Western overseers) were so inept, not having even the higher education diplomas, that it brought the public outcry.
And THAT's what brought their dismissal in the first place, no matter what this deceitful article claims.


As for "The president could appeal to the street to rise up behind him, as it has so decisively in the past:" - yes, Zelensky was increasingly relying on the Nazi forces to protect him, but Bloomberg wouldn't want to call a spade a spade - why would it.
"Appeal to the street" sounds so much better than what it really is.

Yet another note, when it comes to this article;

"Despite criticizing a lack of prosecutions under his predecessor, no high-ranking officials have been locked up on Zelenskiy’s watch."

Woopty-doo, and who this "high ranking official" was supposed to be in the first place, other than Pyotr Poroshenko himself, with plenty of corruption charges brought against him?
Nothing happened to him, obviously, since HIS corruption was protected by Americans; he was a loyal servant of Joe Biden, who still hopes to go back and to whip up the hatred towards Russia among the Ukrainians as soon as.

Precisely as the article describes - " In 2015, he invoked the deaths of protesters when telling parliament that “their sacrifice -- to put it bluntly -- is now your obligation.”


But as I've said, I think good ole Joe is running out of time.


And Ukraine (if to believe to their latest news, that refer to Bloomberg yet again,) is firmly placed now in the category of the poorest Asian and African countries, as far as the investment attractiveness goes.


So much for "We Europe."


Домычались.

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Old 12-20-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Ukraine just doesn't have much to sell when it comes to natural resources. Deforesting those mountains is going to cause long term problems that will last for generations. Are they even replanting them?

All Ukraine to sell is the land and its people. Both of which are to be had real cheap.
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Old 12-20-2020, 03:56 PM
 
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Two of the many talented Ukrainians come to mind are:
Mela Tenenbaum
Svetlana Zakharova

Saw some photos in foreign media of people handing out bread in the streets. No luck in googling related news, other than "their first foodbank" on YouTube.
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Old 12-21-2020, 01:07 PM
 
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Old 12-21-2020, 01:08 PM
 
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Russian people needs new Stalin?
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Old 12-21-2020, 01:11 PM
 
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They got him!
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Old 12-21-2020, 02:31 PM
 
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Russian people needs new Stalin?

Alec, stop worrying about the "Russian people," and start paying closer attention at what your own government is doing in this respect ( surveillance of its own citizens via mobile phones and internet,) new "anti-terrorist laws" et al.




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Old 12-21-2020, 06:45 PM
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Or in other words, if you want to see how Russians can spin anything at all in Ukraine in a negative light, come here. They rush to convince themselves that everywhere is as bad as where they run the show, or even worse.

Its 2020 and Russians are still fighting it out to prevent free markets and democracy from spreading its ideas into their controlled societies. Any market reform is cast as an aggression against Russians and enslavement of Ukrainians. Whether its river traffic, or opening trade of goods, or allowing people to buy and sell farmland, its all from the evil West and must be resisted.
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Old 12-21-2020, 07:29 PM
 
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Or in other words, if you want to see how Russians can spin anything at all in Ukraine in a negative light, come here. They rush to convince themselves that everywhere is as bad as where they run the show, or even worse.

Its 2020 and Russians are still fighting it out to prevent free markets and democracy from spreading its ideas into their controlled societies. Any market reform is cast as an aggression against Russians and enslavement of Ukrainians. Whether its river traffic, or opening trade of goods, or allowing people to buy and sell farmland, its all from the evil West and must be resisted.

DKM..
Instead of going into long explanations, I'll tell you what;

Go to Europeans ( all those civilized places you know, in Old Europe,) tell them that they need "free market reforms" and then come back to us and report what happened to you.
(I'll be happy to see you in one piece.)
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