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Old 03-20-2021, 12:36 PM
 
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You're clearly not paying attention. One of the oligarchs was elected after the Maidan so, no. There are good and bad oligarchs, the ones who act normally are not the problem. If they reinvest in their plants and people and pay their taxes like Pinchuk, and Akhmetov, I personally don't see the problem. The ones who only make money Russian style (corrupt connections) are the problem. Once again the USA was not involved, so there is no "You" in your sentence that applies.
What a shame ! But how? After all, the Maidan demolished all the oligarchs ! I remember exactly, the whole Internet was buzzing like an alarmed hive ! Or did not all the oligarchs win the Maidan? Or did the Independence Square not touch any of the oligarchs at all? Or maybe ( Oh, horror!) the oligarchs just got stronger as a result of the Maidan? No, it can't be. Activists probably cry 24 hours a day and 7 days a week...


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Old 03-20-2021, 12:38 PM
 
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The Space Force idea is mainly a shell game that takes existing funding for Air Force programs with nothing new being funded.
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Old 03-20-2021, 03:48 PM
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Location: California
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Honestly honestly? Are they producing exactly? Or it's the same as always. We will someday produce,but there is no project,no documentation,no money, but there is a "memorandum of intent".
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What a shame ! But how? After all, the Maidan demolished all the oligarchs ! I remember exactly, the whole Internet was buzzing like an alarmed hive ! Or did not all the oligarchs win the Maidan? Or did the Independence Square not touch any of the oligarchs at all? Or maybe ( Oh, horror!) the oligarchs just got stronger as a result of the Maidan? No, it can't be. Activists probably cry 24 hours a day and 7 days a week...
25% chance you really believe the stuff you wrote, 75% you're just trolling.
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:46 PM
 
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... Meanwhile it looks like Ukrainian government is reviving fracking in Eastern Ukraine.

Donbass/Eastern part of Ukraine are already devastated by the consequences of the "2014 revolution," and now - this.

Locals are pointing at the wide swaths of cut down trees in their forests, the drying up rivers, and some places are already reporting problems with water quality.
While the rest of the world is moving away from this practice understanding its potential danger, Ukraine, where there is no public oversight of any illegal actions of the government, this becomes yet another growing ecological threat.



Ukraine's shale gas reserves are deeper than those in the United States, and thus production is bound to be more expensive, which may make it cost-prohibitive, depending on the prevailing market prices for gas. Ukraine continues to vigorously pursue reforms designed to achieve energy independence, which portends well for hydraulic fracturing as a helpful option in that regard.[



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrau...ing_by_country





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u2bOCwRUIc


It's just sad to see how much Ukraine has declined, how devastated it looks, even comparably to the Soviet times.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:03 PM
 
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25% chance you really believe the stuff you wrote, 75% you're just trolling.
Same principle applies to you but the ratios are different. You troll 100% and actually believe everything you write.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:20 PM
 
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Meet the new oligarchs. Same as the old oligarchs.
I think Ukraine’s future is to muddle along like it has in the last 30 years.
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Old 03-20-2021, 06:26 PM
 
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Meet the new oligarchs. Same as the old oligarchs.
I think Ukraine’s future is to muddle along like it has in the last 30 years.
It never does change. In all our history there seems to have been no other way with the technology we have.
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Old 03-20-2021, 07:36 PM
 
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Meet the new oligarchs. Same as the old oligarchs.
I think Ukraine’s future is to muddle along like it has in the last 30 years.

Actually by the sound of it, it became only worse lately.
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Old 03-20-2021, 08:01 PM
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... Meanwhile it looks like Ukrainian government is reviving fracking in Eastern Ukraine.
Nope, just expanding regular gas production. This is about the worst thing Ukraine can do in Russia's eyes, short of putting a NATO base in Kharkov. It's no surprise their disinformation network is hysterical about Ukraine producing its own gas.


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It's just sad to see how much EASTERN Ukraine has declined, how devastated it looks, even comparably to the Soviet times.
Fixed it for you.

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Meet the new oligarchs. Same as the old oligarchs.
I think Ukraine’s future is to muddle along like it has in the last 30 years.
Certainly, and despite my hopes, this is a real possibility. The president seems to genuinely want to tackle the problems after about a year of seeming to not want to. We'll see what 2021 brings after what has been a truly bad year.
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Old 03-20-2021, 09:15 PM
 
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Hang on DKM, you'll be "fixing" whatever later, - here is more; ( Ukraine is highly entertaining *country* - not a day without exciting news.)
And proud Ukrainian youth sure loves the music with a good beat.

Yes that's them, not being happy that one of their "bros" was convicted by court ( not even for the murder that he committed earlier,) but for the latest kidnapping and torture of the Ukrainian official, that the "proud youth" don't consider to be worthy.
Yes it's the Office of the President of Ukraine - they enjoy the upbeat music near it.

And in the process, they are trying to explain to the government, that their convicted bro needs to get out of prison. Soon. Very soon.

As soon as possible.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O18AAfakXX0
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