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Old 01-29-2022, 08:39 AM
 
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Now this is interesting.
This is humorous dispatch of course, but from what this guy is saying...
Well, why would Biden threaten Zelensky like that, during the last phone conversation, as in "Russians are going to attack and Kiev will be sacked?"

According to what this guy is saying, B. is pushing Zelensky to fulfill Minsk agreement.

("That's why the call came soon after the meeting between Yermak ( representing Kiev) and Kozak ( representing Moscow) in an attempt to bring resolution to the LDNR situation.

And, according to this guy from Klimenko time, "Biden is mentioning the Minsk agreement not for the first time, and he actually backs it up, as a way out of the current crisis."





But THIS would mean an ultimate betrayal in the eyes of Zelensky, along with refusal to send NATO troops to fight Russia.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSr_cNUprK8
Ah yes, this is the truth.

Fits with Biden's M.O

People say he wants war but he definitely doesn't based on his actions. He wants to give Russia a compromise but can't directly, so he is leaning on Ukraine.
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:36 AM
 
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A pretty accurate portrayal of how Russia would invade Ukraine. I would do it basically the same way but with a few variations.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNIU6TRsRzk
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:40 AM
 
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The head of the German navy has resigned over controversial comments he made over Ukraine.

Kay-Achim Schönbach said the idea that Russia wanted to invade Ukraine was nonsense. He added that all President Vladimir Putin wanted was respect.

A number of countries have supplied weapons to Ukraine, including the US and UK. But Germany has refused Ukraine's request for ammunition.

Russia has denied claims that it is planning to invade Ukraine.

But President Putin has issued demands to the West which he says concern Russia's security, including that Ukraine be stopped from joining the military defence alliance Nato.

He also wants Nato to abandon military exercises and stop sending weapons to eastern Europe, seeing this as a direct threat to Russia's security.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099924

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What were Schönbach's remarks?

Schönbach made the comments during a talk that he gave in a visit to India. Speaking at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, the German vice admiral said Putin "probably" deserved respect.

"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.

"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.

Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
https://www.dw.com/en/german-navy-ch...mea/a-60525709
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Old 01-30-2022, 12:15 PM
 
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60099924

https://www.dw.com/en/german-navy-ch...mea/a-60525709


"The head of the German navy has resigned over controversial comments he made over Ukraine.

Kay-Achim Schönbach said the idea that Russia wanted to invade Ukraine was nonsense. He added that all President Vladimir Putin wanted was respect.

A number of countries have supplied weapons to Ukraine, including the US and UK. But Germany has refused Ukraine's request for ammunition.

Russia has denied claims that it is planning to invade Ukraine.

But President Putin has issued demands to the West which he says concern Russia's security, including that Ukraine be stopped from joining the military defence alliance Nato.

He also wants Nato to abandon military exercises and stop sending weapons to eastern Europe, seeing this as a direct threat to Russia's security."

Yeah, I was talking about it on the "Politics" forum another day.

The "West" is not unified any longer, it's split between the "right and left" not only within the countries, but across the line. The "Greens" of Germany with their transgender MPs, that are closer to Biden and CO, VS someone like this Vice Admiral ( and I am sure he is not the only one who privately hold similar opinion. They are just not allowed to talk, since it leads to you know now what.)
But oh my, what a hysteria his words brought to Ukrainian brethren - particularly the part that Crimea is lost for Ukraine, deal with it.
They called the German ambassador in to protest, then cheered the dismissal of Schönbach, and their own ambassador to Germany, A. Melnik actually called it "insufficient for reestablishment of trust towards Germany."
What do they want for that aforementioned "reestablishment of trust"?
Why, supply of German weaponry to Ukraine, to "fight the Russian aggressor" as usual.

I think Baerbock was warming up to this idea, but the rest said "we don't think so."
So as a *compromise* I guess Ukrainian army is going to get 5,000 helmets from Germans.

But this is of course not good enough, and Melnik keeps on insisting "you Germans owe us, because we were your victim back in 1941," to which Baerbock HAD to respond already that "you were part of the Soviet Union back then, so we already acknowledged our guilt in front of the whole country."

But oh no, Kiev isn't ready to quit in its quest to make Germany pay-pay-pay on whatever basis.



" Ukraine’s top diplomat in Berlin has demanded that Germany must pay for what he describes as the theft of priceless heritage from the country by the Nazis during WWII, as well as for subsequent deals made on cultural artifacts...
...
"In the statement, the envoy argued that Kiev is still owed compensation “for the enormous losses in cultural heritage during the Nazi occupation, as well as from the point of view of supporting [Ukraine] on its path to membership in the EU.”
Melnik also complained that Germany has ignored his country’s proposal to create a “Compensatory Fund for Wartime Losses” to help Ukrainian museums purchase art from around the world, and pointed out that Ukraine had been completely destroyed by the occupation and was deprived of much of its cultural heritage...
In March, he said it was the “moral duty” of Germany to secure the return of Crimea from Russia, because of Berlin’s previous occupation of the territory, at a time when it was part of the Russian Soviet Union."


https://www.rt.com/russia/541634-mel...-compensation/


And if this was not enough, then Steinmeier's stance on Nord Stream II brought the *righteous indignation* of the Ukrainian brethren too, because -



"Ukraine's ambassador ( Melnik that is,)to Berlin on Tuesday slammed "questionable historical arguments" made by German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier regarding the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
Andriy Melnyk's reaction came as officials from Ukraine and many other European countries have grown increasingly frustrated with the German government's insistence on completing the project and effectively doubling the amount of gas that Germany imports from Russia.
In an interview with the German newspaper Rheinische Post, Steinmeier defended the pipeline by saying that fuel sales were "one of the last bridges between Russia and Europe."
"I believe that burning bridges is not a sign of strength," Steinmeier said.
https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-stein...wii/a-56515956



Melnyk said Steinmeier's stance was met by "surprise and indignation" in Kyiv."


Right.

But apparently that's not the only thing that brings "surprise and indignation" of Mr. Melnik.
Bundestag's decision to honor Polish losses in WWII without an input from Ukraine apparently angered him too.



"Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andriy Melnyk accused the Bundestag deputies of double standards because of the decision to create in Berlin a “place of remembrance” only for Polish victims of Nazism."


https://tekdeeps.com/ambassador-of-u...ims-of-nazism/


In one of his latest dispatches, Sharij (who lives in EU and follows it all,) gently reminded a Russian proverb, that "If you'll invite a pig to sit at the table, it will put its feet on the table."
"Germans" he said - "Russian Germans or whoever you are that can hear me.

Why are you putting up with all this?"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMouQXbHBsU&t=612s
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Old 01-30-2022, 01:41 PM
 
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The whole invasion has been extended endlessly since 2014, at this point I'm starting to think it's just a plot to crash the economy even further.
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Old 01-30-2022, 06:27 PM
 
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This is interesting. Back in the 1960s the US installed a president in South Viet Nam. When it turned out the guy had ideas other than to do what he was told to the letter, guess what. They pulled off another coup and replaced him.

Now it seems Zelensky is saying the wrong words, thinking the wrong thoughts? He doesn't want people to panic and is saying so.

The US wants Ukrainians in a state of terror, not to mention the Europeans terrified too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...DHP&li=BBnb7Kz

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But his style has also caused friction with Ukraine’s Western partners and elicited some unease at home over his ability to manage the country’s predicament successfully. Russian officials have sneeringly dismissed his trustworthiness.
Maybe Zelenskys days are numbered.
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Old 01-30-2022, 06:29 PM
 
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"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Saying the wrong words (especially if they make sense) can cost you everything in the West.
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Old 01-30-2022, 06:33 PM
 
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I have been keeping an eye on the weather in Eastern Europe. Predictions are the February is going to be the usual sub zero temps consistently.

If Russia is going to go, it will do it in the next 3 weeks. After Feb 21st the window will close. Just my opinion.
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Old 01-30-2022, 11:16 PM
 
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I have been keeping an eye on the weather in Eastern Europe. Predictions are the February is going to be the usual sub zero temps consistently.

If Russia is going to go, it will do it in the next 3 weeks. After Feb 21st the window will close. Just my opinion.

The clock of history is ticking.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjIsZEK2i1Q
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Old 02-01-2022, 12:32 PM
 
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Poor girl ( O. Medvedeva,) is sitting home with Covid, and keeps the Christmas tree around to cheer her up.

But she is reporting couple of interesting things today, definitely worth attention.

So in continuation to the detailed explanations that I gave here, ( and earlier on this thread too,) here it goes;

1. "Ukraine’s security chief warned the West on Monday against forcing the country to fulfill a peace deal for eastern Ukraine brokered by France and Germany, charging that an attempt to implement it could trigger internal unrest that would benefit Moscow."


By the sound of it, during the latest rounds of negotiations behind the scene, Russians finally explained to the White House, that it's UKRAINE that is not fulfilling the Minsk agreement, and not "Russia" ( LDNR), which creates the never-endless military conflict in Donbass.

Biden/Blinken in their turn decided to put a pressure on Zelensky to fulfill the agreement.

What they don't understand apparently, is that Zelensky is not in charge of such decisions - the NATIONALSTS with guns are. ( Or may be they DO understand it, and want Zelensky to be overthrown from his position - who knows. Because Poroshenko can do this presidential job as well, and he too serves as a good window front of a "man in a suit," covering for the Nationalists in fatigues, that don't look too palatable for the "liberal West."
But once Biden/Blinken command came in place, Zelensky complained to the Nationalists, and one of their guards, secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council Danilov, fired back, saying that


“The fulfillment of the Minsk agreement means the country’s destruction,”

( precisely for the reasons I explained many times before, that there was NEVER a "country" to begin with. There was only anti-Russian project concocted by Obama's administration ( and whoever was with him.)

So the roosters came home to roost and now Danilov publicly acknowledged it.


And now, beefed up with all kind of American ( British) weaponry, Zelensky and Co are demanding to "rewrite Minsk agreement" in response to Biden's pressure to fulfill it.

But this agreement can't be re-written because of the precision of all its provisions, meticulously outlined by Germans ( namely Frank-Walter Steinmeier,) god bless his heart.

You can figure out the rest from that AP article that I left the link to above.

( here it is again, just in case


https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...bf0c3c18427e81

And 2.

According to the girl sitting presently in quarantine with Covid, this official statement made to Associated Press by Danilov is addressed not so much to Biden, but to his "hot blooded anti-Russian hawks in American government, all Biden's opponents."

The tail is trying to wag the dog now?

Yes indeed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKrU0Llmuh4

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