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Nobody cares at this point what they think.
They've been used by Americans to serve as anti-Russian instrument.
Once they've been used, their opinions of what's going on are irrelevant, and they can feel themselves deceived/duped all they want.
But whatever it is, I can tell you one thing however with certainty;
No matter how the Soviet government treated its satellites ( i.e. Eastern European countries,) never ever the Russians themselves ( i.e. as in regular people on the streets) treated Eastern Europeans with the kind of cold contempt that I observe today in EU. They were always their equals, or "the bros that came to visit" when in Russia.
So have a bit of that sobering medicine, and learn how it feels to live under the new masters that promised EEs the mounts of gold, since you didn't like the old masters so much.
Yeah just like Hungary and Czechia wanted to abandon all things Soviet in the midst of the last century and no one sent tanks there...like absolutely no Russian tanks...
The problem with the EU is that they invest billions in trying to convince people that there isn't a single centralized government (unlike the Soviet Union with Moscow) but everything is due to "problems with corruption" in the new "joined" countries. They brainwash people to believe that just like they brainwash them to believe adopting the Euro is good and so on.
Yeah just like Hungary and Czechia wanted to abandon all things Soviet in the midst of the last century and no one sent tanks there...like absolutely no Russian tanks...
Listen closely to what I've said;
you are talking about the Russian GOVERNMENT here, and I explained that Russians ( as in people on the streets) never treated other EEs with the kind of contempt that I see now in EU.
EEs were always welcomed on the streets of Moscow and other Russian cities and treated as equals.
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The problem with the EU is that they invest billions in trying to convince people that there isn't a single centralized government (unlike the Soviet Union with Moscow) but everything is due to "problems with corruption" in the new "joined" countries. They brainwash people to believe that just like they brainwash them to believe adopting the Euro is good and so on.
Post-Soviet Georgia ( for example) fought the aforementioned "corruption" successfully ( according to the "Western powers" - that's why they kept on sending "Georgian specialists" to Ukraine, yet as for Georgia itself - it's STILL poor as the "church mouse," and Georgians would have been still looked down upon, if in EU.
So obviously there are other factors at play, other than "corruption."
DKM. Now that the subject is up again why don't we create a new nation. Make Galicia once more? It was essentially its own nation in the past.
We could solve a lot of problems this way don't you think?
I wish, yes. They could take their weird language with them and leave the rest of the country to use Russian
as an equal language without it being considered unpatriotic. Better yet, give back some parts of Hungary, Slovakia and Romania to their original countries. They don't let us tell them what to do though.
I wish, yes. They could take their weird language with them and leave the rest of the country to use Russian
as an equal language without it being considered unpatriotic. Better yet, give back some parts of Hungary, Slovakia and Romania to their original countries. They don't let us tell them what to do though.
Sounds good to me. Odessa and all lands west of the Dneipre go to Russia or become East Ukraine. So the new nation isn't land locked free access to the port of Odessa in perpetuity with the exception of a small fee for maintenance of port facilities and roads.
Where you're wrong though is THE KIEV JUNTA DOES EXACTLY AS IT IS TOLD!!!
Something like this is a long term solution. But solutions is not what the western powers want.
I mean really.............. I don't know what to say here. Welcome to the west? I know DKM says Ukraine doesn't let anyone tell them what to do but....... Really DKM? ****ing really?
Well I'd say Galacia and what not can join Poland. Donetsk and Luhansk can join Russia. The rest of the country can be a dual language country and no NATO like Finland and free to do whatever else it wants. So who is going to give me this power to make it happen haha.
Ukraine gets them from Covax and can't even find enough willing takers so why would EU or anybody else send them more? Ukraine might as well send its doses to countries that will use them.
So. After that 5 year old being killed in his back yard from the Ukrainian drone in Donbass, what do I hear again?
That Ukrainian nationalist battalions are at it again.
At 0:47 there is a report here, that they opened fire at the location at time, when children were walking home from school. The locals in this village report that their car has been hit, and that they managed to grab the scared children off the street and place them in their car for safety.
I could have thought that it was a mere coincidence, but nope, in this short movie, made by Sharij's team, the older kids (13 years old,) basically confirm the same, that Ukrainians target them, while they are walking home from school. ( Here the journalists are talking with the inhabitants from both sides of the front lines in Donbass; people that live on controlled by Ukraine territories and those that live in the LDNR.)
A. Sharij: "Hello dear friends. Zelensky keeps on saying that he often comes to Donbass and meet with people. I don't know what kind of people he is meeting with, but my guys went to Donbass and talked to the local people there from both sides of the front lines. This is the short movie they made, so watch it - it's pretty interesting;
Captioning; "April 20th, 2021, president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky offered to Vladimir Putin, the president of the Russian Federation to meet at any Donbass location. In response, Putin said that Zelensky has to come to terms with the representatives of the LDNR first, and offered him as well to meet in Moscow.
At 0:47. Journalist, (addressing boys); "OK guys, so there a shelling going on today - are you afraid of it?
-No, we are not. We are already used to it.
Although we are on the fourth floor for the most part and all windows are open, we are used to it.
- So do you hear the cannonade during your lessons at school?
- Yeah.. During the history lesson today the shelling began. We sit there and proceed with the lesson.
-What do you think about this war? People are talking about the possible coming offensive.. what are your plans? What are you going to do in this case?
-Some people might leave... they'll go to their relatives and will stay with them may be..
Boy on the left; - I have nowhere to go. My father and grandmother ( and two other relatives) - they stayed here throughout the 2014th and 2015th... They didn't go anywhere. They were hiding in basements... so yeah, we didn't leave at all.
at 2:03. Journalist; "Tell us your name please. Just a first name is good enough if you wish."
-My name is Vyacheslav.
-Where do you live?
-Here, in Alexandrovka.
-How far are you from the front line?
-About 900 meters. Let's put it this way - the middle between the DNR and the Ukrainians. The neutral zone.
-Is it true that some people hear them yelling there?
-Oh yeah.. that's on the very outskirts of the village. My acquaintance lives there - yes, he could hear when the Nationalist battalions were stationed there, they were playing the German Nazi songs at 5 o'clock in the morning. And at 6 or seven in the morning they were playing the Ukrainian anthem.
- So they were playing German nazi marches for real?
- Yes they did. My friends were telling me that when the regular Ukrainian troops were stationed there, everything was quiet, but with the Nationalist battalions - yes, they could hear it all.
At 3:02; Journalist; "So it looks like you are staying here on the front lines.. So in case of the possible offensive you'll be hit first. Do I understand it correctly?
"Woman; "Well, yes.. That's true."
-Are you planning to run in this case, or what are you planning to do?
- To run? To run where? This is my land, everything I have is here, why should I leave? And that's what everyone thinks here - everyone who stayed.
- Do you hear the cannonade?
-Of course we do, they shoot at us every day. Not only we can hear, we can see them as well. They shoot at civilian targets on purpose, they want to get rid of us.
Back to children at 8:55
-Which one of you remember how the war started? Because it's already going for 7year.. How old are you?
- I am thirteen, almost fourteen.
-So do you remember how it all started?
-Yes we do. It started booming all around us. I asked my mother what that was all about and she said that it was the war.
-It happens that we walk to school and they shoot at us.
-Yes, they shoot when we are walking. Our street is out in the open, no covers, so we hear the bullets going all over the place. As soon as we take cover, everything calms down. And we were walking over there... through Shevchenko street, which is out in the open too... the bullets were flying yet again. As soon as we'd hide, it was quiet again.
-Are they retards or what? Can't they see that these are children walking to school? Are they out of their mind?
-It can be so.
Any comments about the Russian shelling of a Ukrainian hospital? Or is it all one sided in your view.
DKM...
I see only one mentioning of the incident so far, that starts with the "Russo-terrorist army shelled the hospital , where Covid-19 and pneumonia patients were stationed."
Above is a picture of that hospital I assume.
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