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Old 04-15-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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I have been thinking about this.

Instead of trying to take territory from its neighbors, why doesn't the Russian government simply encourage these ethnic Russians to move into Russia itself? This way Russia does not continue to damage its relations with the United States, Canada and virtually the whole of Europe.

Russia is already the world's largest empire so its not like they need more land. More importantly is the Russian people because as other have pointed out, the ethnic Russian population in Russia was declining. So it makes sense to try to encourage ethnic Russians to move into Russia itself.

Perhaps free land and housing or maybe a financial incentive to move to Russia? Encourage people to move to strategic areas where the Russian government wants to strengthen the Russian population.
I think that's an interesting point. However, only the most naive truly believes that any of this has to do with the Russian government caring about the ethnic Russian population in Ukraine (when has the Russian gov't ever cared about its people?!). It cares about NATO/EU/USA moving further into its sphere of influence.
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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It seems that the war started. In Kramatorsk there are wounded.
I briefly saw a report on CNN that as many as a dozen people have been killed in the fighting at an airfield in that city.

I am surprised that the Russian forces along the border have not intervened as Putin said they would if ethnic Russians were harmed.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Russia
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False alarm. It seems that no one died.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Basically there are negotiations. Someone somewhere shot is not very clear why.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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The junta now starts to kill their own people.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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"The most dangerous moment in the Ukrainian crisis so far may well have arrived. The security operations undertaken by the Kiev government have been received by Russia with alarm. "Events are beginning to develop under the worst case scenario," said one senior official in Moscow... The question now is whether that response will be seized upon by Moscow as a pretext for military action. "

BBC News - Ukraine says Donetsk 'anti-terror operation' under way
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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The junta now starts to kill their own people.
GRU forces aren't their own people for your information.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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GRU forces aren't their own people for your information.
anna-news.info
Look at these people. They are not GRU, they are all civilians. No pasaran. Фашизм не пройдет.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Estonia
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Why would civilians want to take over an airfield? It's crystal clear that the separatists are are supported by the Russian special forces. They clear out all the buildings and then they give them to these drunks and thugs.
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Russia
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In Kiev, a rally was held in support of the arrested police officers who participated in the Maidan Square. Representatives of the new government (the "Right sector" activists) tried to stomp a poster of the dead policemen, but the woman did not give it to do.



Ashamed of Ukrainians.
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