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I think what the real people of Ukraine really want is peace and stability. These Right Sector people I simply do not trust. They want a "pure Ukraine", what does that entail?
I fully understand that the Yanukovich government was corrupt but what do they have now? An American puppet setting up the country to be raped. Farmers are going to be pushed off land that they have owned for generations when they can't pay the higher property taxes. Corporations like Monsanto and Cargill will move in and buy it cheap. Old people have had their pensions cut and prices are sky rocketing. It seems to me the attitude of the current regime is just to let them all die off of starvation and disease.
Pretty cute how the son of vice president got into his position too. Maybe a Ukrainian should be there, up at the top. Never going to happen.
There's no way you're going to paint this pig boy.
I think Ukrainians are in for a very hard time, all thanks to people like you.
I don't see this happening either. American puppet is deemed corrupt by the Whitehouse and Ukraine is no where near a place that is safe for US investor. They have a revolution every 7 years with a corrupt court system... Porshenko is not going to get me to invest in Ukraine, and even if the next guy does make Ukraine favorable for investments there is always threat of another revolution.
Under Yanukovich there were no wars, people had shelter and food, now what do they have ?
I don't see this happening either. American puppet is deemed corrupt by the Whitehouse and Ukraine is no where near a place that is safe for US investor. They have a revolution every 7 years with a corrupt court system... Porshenko is not going to get me to invest in Ukraine, and even if the next guy does make Ukraine favorable for investments there is always threat of another revolution.
No private investors probably will not. Taxpayers will. They'll just set up a scheme where the US taxpayers give money to "Ukraine" (read corporations) to "enable the blooming of liberty, freedom and democracy". Corporations "invest in freedom, democracy and liberty" with some bribes and a couple of schools and a hospital here and there. After the freedom loving, liberated democratic people of Ukraine are in their place (sweating in the fields and digging through garbage bins) and the fields of GM corn, wheat, barley and beets are harvested for the first time the profits will go to the corporate share holders.
You're a taxpayer Dpolo. You'll invest and so will offspring and their children also, like it or not.
No private investors probably will not. Taxpayers will. They'll just set up a scheme where the US taxpayers give money to "Ukraine" (read corporations) to "enable the blooming of liberty, freedom and democracy". Corporations "invest in freedom, democracy and liberty" with some bribes and a couple of schools and a hospital here and there. After the freedom loving, liberated democratic people of Ukraine are in their place (sweating in the fields and digging through garbage bins) and the fields of GM corn, wheat, barley and beets are harvested for the first time the profits will go to the corporate share holders.
You're a taxpayer Dpolo. You'll invest and so will offspring and their children also, like it or not.
Other then spiting Putin, how consequential is Ukraine to us in the US ? American's don't care about Ukraine, maybe taxpayer money will go to pay for military bases, but that's about it. There is nothing in Ukraine that we might want.
Final count of NAF trophies: 187 Tanks, 124 APCs, 110 Arty, 24 MLRS, 278 mortars, 139 trucks, 500+ tonnes of munition. I'd take 1/3 off.
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Other then spiting Putin, how consequential is Ukraine to us in the US ? American's don't care about Ukraine, maybe taxpayer money will go to pay for military bases, but that's about it. There is nothing in Ukraine that we might want.
Things like this serve many purposes but the main point I think is Americans (citizens) don't matter in this. It's not what Americans want, it's what American elites want. What do they want? Opportunity to acquire money/power. Some don't really care and have had a hardon for Russia their entire lives. Look at Hillary Clinton, she specialized in Soviet studies at Oxford. People have made a career out of messing with Russia. It's said the the US arms industry would have collapsed decades ago were it not for the USSR along with a large part of the US economy. John McInsane has flash backs about his "torture" in N Viet Nam and has the US arms industry so deep inside his arse he owes them every bit of joy he's ever known.
Final count of NAF trophies: 187 Tanks, 124 APCs, 110 Arty, 24 MLRS, 278 mortars, 139 trucks, 500+ tonnes of munition. I'd take 1/3 off.
Things like this serve many purposes but the main point I think is Americans (citizens) don't matter in this. It's not what Americans want, it's what American elites want. What do they want? Opportunity to acquire money/power. Some don't really care and have had a hardon for Russia their entire lives. Look at Hillary Clinton, she specialized in Soviet studies at Oxford. People have made a career out of messing with Russia. It's said the the US arms industry would have collapsed decades ago were it not for the USSR along with a large part of the US economy. John McInsane has flash backs about his "torture" in N Viet Nam and has the US arms industry so deep inside his arse he owes them every bit of joy he's ever known.
I don't think that the elite show their face to the public in the US. It's who stands behind the guy. Since this guy controls corporations, that's where the funding comes from. Elites run countries, that's how it's always has been with human history.
Sad for America, I thought it was a free country and then I see Soviet Style Propaganda on CNN, had it been about any other country, I would have believed it too. But I know about Russia and Ukraine. So they lie about other countries to.
Obama was arguing with Putin before the Olympics. McKane could not do anything without Obama, the orders come from Obama.
Putin told Hillary "Weakness is not a bad quality in a woman." I don't think Hillary can win elections, so if she gets democratic primary the one running against her will win.
The way I remember Putin did not leave Georgia alone, until he disarmed em.... And I am reading in the news that Ukraine is getting weapons from US and Poland and Brits to help em train with those weapons. So it might not be over yet.
I don't think that the elite show their face to the public in the US. It's who stands behind the guy. Since this guy controls corporations, that's where the funding comes from. Elites run countries, that's how it's always has been with human history.
I'm not sure whom you are referring too and yes, elites do run countries. Look to Catherine The Great as an example.
I'm not sure whom you are referring too and yes, elites do run countries. Look to Catherine The Great as an example.
I mean that powerful people do not run for government here, in the US, they buy career politicians through legal channels. . At least that's how I see it.
I mean that powerful people do not run for government here, in the US, they buy career politicians through legal channels. . At least that's how I see it.
Generally, different people may run at the head of a ticket but the staff of political, economic, and national security advisors are the same for each party from one election to the next. Obama may have some national security people carried over from the Bush administration, but most advisors came from the Clinton camp.
Generally, different people may run at the head of a ticket but the staff of political, economic, and national security advisors are the same for each party from one election to the next. Obama may have some national security people carried over from the Bush administration, but most advisors came from the Clinton camp.
I don't know, but we always thought Obama was bad at foreign policy.
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. At least that's how I see it.
