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Old 03-08-2014, 04:52 AM
 
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"Protesters" in Prosecutor's office.


The representative of the new government explains city Council how to work.

If you do not understand, in Ukraine came to power, the Nazis.
This is very serious.

Sorry for the bad language.

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Old 03-08-2014, 05:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ramzes55 View Post
"Protesters" in Prosecutor's office







The representative of the new government explains city Council how to work

If you do not understand, in Ukraine came to power, the Nazis
This is very serious.

Sorry for the bad language

I'd like to have the opinion of the Liberals on tis forum of what happens in Ukraine?
(I don't ask the neo cons since they propably have some weak spot for the Neo Nazis)
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:34 AM
 
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Jumalauta.

The Verhkhovna Rada has issued these referendums among with many more:

- a comission that tries to battle corruption better is being put forward
- the electorial system is being reformed so that future elections would be more transparent
- the undemocratic laws Yanukovych issued have been revoked, including the constitutional changes

Yeah, sounds that fascists and Right Sector activists would do this in the first place...
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:11 AM
 
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What is the definition of a "fascist" or a "Nazi"?

They used to mean specific political ideologies, but nowadays most people use those words to insult people whose politics they don't like.
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:38 AM
 
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They used to mean specific political ideologies, but nowadays most people use those words to insult people whose politics they don't like.
I'd go further. It is too incite pure unadulterated 'chaos' in the world of the regular work-a-day Russian. Chaos works well for Mr. Putin now. Hoist the Nazi flag in the minds of the populace ...might as well put glorious 'red' out for the bull that wants its flesh. One thing I give Putin credit for is he understands the battle of the 'streets'. No doubt he is a student of the Patriotic War. He knows there's only one way to fight and that is like Stalingrad. At that time it was a 'just' war. Today it is not like that at all. He has no compunction of flouting international norms and laws. Conflict now is only 'just' in the sense for Russia. It's their way or the 'highway' and he'll even bring in the spectre of the hated Nazis now to stoke tension
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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What is the definition of a "fascist" or a "Nazi"?

They used to mean specific political ideologies, but nowadays most people use those words to insult people whose politics they don't like.
A Fascism by definition is a party....that has absolute power...a party that has no competition what so ever...it is despotism...we have it in all forms these days....there are the soft polite and politically correct fascist and then there are the more outwardly aggressive and violent ones. You can see clever fascism here in the west..For instance there is a policy in place where school children are used as tools to control parents...

A parent is forced to take specific parenting classes by the school board...IF the parent fails to attend their child can be held back and not promoted to the next grade...The parents have a "choice" in which course to take...One of the courses is regarding sexual orientation....the other is a suicide prevention thing....Well it appears to me that what the fascist authorities are really doing here is attempting to program YOUR child to think a certain way that is in compliance to the agenda of the state...and IF a parent refuses to go along with this they in effect HARM your child by hindering their educational progress..

I would say to take this coercive power and control parents through the thing they love the most...their kids is fascism. We will see lots of fascism in the future along with trends that are similar to the Nazi (National Socialists).......BUT to day it is more refined....and seems normal....
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:44 AM
 
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Russia calls for OSCE probe into Kiev sniper deaths | GlobalPost

So, the OSCE should investigate the Maidan shootings, but they are not allowed to enter Crimea? Gotta love Lavrov
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Old 03-08-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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The Ukraine has a dark history....First it was Stalin who was actually not even a Russia who created a policy that robbed Ukraine of it's food. Ukraine was non-compliant towards the original communist doctrine and Stalin....made sure that he starved over 16 million of them to death...My mother told me stories of her as a young girl trying to keep her dying father alive with grass.....THEN later the Germans invaded the place during WW2.... So NOW between Russia their old abuser ....and Germany their other old abuser....and ironically Germany controls the EU....WELL it would be best for the Ukraine NOT to be seduced by the EU or by Moscow....Maybe it is time that they stood on their own?
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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The Ukraine has a dark history....
Absolutely. Poles, Russians, and Ukrainians killing one another there over the centuries, and all of them killing Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...res_in_Ukraine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacr...es_in_Volhynia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmelnytsky_Uprising
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Old 03-08-2014, 09:18 AM
 
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What is the definition of a "fascist" or a "Nazi"?

They used to mean specific political ideologies, but nowadays most people use those words to insult people whose politics they don't like.
It still means a very specific ideology in this case;

Right Sector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


And that's what East Ukrainians are chanting ( among other things) "Fascism will not have a pass."


Донецк. 07.03.2014г. - YouTube

( But of course, if to believe Western media, these are all "busloads of Russians that Putin sends across the border.")
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