Covid virus in phoenix (Monday, run, small)

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

True that. The stupidity of closing down businesses, schools, churches, etc., increasing suicides and other mental health issues over a disease that after more than one year has killed .22% of Phoenix' population.


All that over-reacting over .22%. After over a year. Now that, is stupidity.

A quarter percent of the state’s population is still 17k that have died. Fill up Sun’s arena and kill everyone inside. That’s a lot of impact to a lot of people. That doesn’t even address the other 830k people who have unknown long-term effects to look forward to. And that is with mitigation efforts in place.

Your point that “only” 17k Arizonans are dead is a testament to mitigation efforts and a battle that we are on the path to winning, if people will exercise smarts and empathy just a bit longer. Again, two fights here, clearly.

[fluffythewondercat]

Originally Posted by FlurryCat

When would it not be stupid? .44%? 2.2%? 22%? Where's your line? What's your cost per person? What about those who don't die but have long-term health issues? Do they count for anything?

That’s what concerns me. We still don’t know how many people have been devastated by Covid and what we’re going to do to help them.

[Burning Madolf]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

True that. The stupidity of closing down businesses, schools, churches, etc., increasing suicides and other mental health issues over a disease that after more than one year has killed .22% of Phoenix' population.


All that over-reacting over .22%. After over a year. Now that, is stupidity.

Just wait until the double, triple and quadruple variants start showing up here.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Burning Madolf

Just wait until the double, triple and quadruple variants start showing up here.

Because of the stupidity of those that won't get vaccinated and wear a mask for a bit longer.

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by DetroitN8V

Because of the stupidity of those that won't get vaccinated and wear a mask for a bit longer.

Here's a new article with some scary stuff:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/07/world...-21/index.html

Excerpt of article:
"A major study published Tuesday suggests as many as one in three people infected with Covid-19 are left with longer term mental health or neurological symptoms. Researchers found that 34% of coronavirus survivors received a diagnosis for a neurological or psychological condition within six months of infection, according to the research published in the journal Lancet Psychiatry. The most common diagnosis was anxiety, found in 17% of those treated for Covid-19, followed by mood disorders, found in 14% of patients,"


Dreadful consequences. Other news is saying there are more new variants out there with major increases in transmissibility. That's bad enough but if we get variants that have a big increase in lethality we're screwed. IMO it's too early to believe we are getting this under control, especially with all those people who refuse to wear a mask or get a vaccine -- such behavior begs for more variants in a global game of Russian Roulette.

[Ponderosa]

26 people were reported as covid deaths in AZ today. It is sad when anyone passes from this disease but especially so now. I am willing to bet that most of these deaths were preventable had the person availed themselves of the vaccine. I know that, because my daughter tells me of people who are headed to the ICU and a very uncertain future who decided they did not want or did not need to be vaccinated even though they could have been. And they are not all old. More and more people from 30-60 are going critical. Get vaccinated. It's relatively easy to find shots here now at the state sites and so many local ones. Don't be the last soldier to die in the war.

[Bondurant]

Originally Posted by DKM

They aren't supposed experts and bureaucrats. They are actual experts and elected officials who listened to them.

Yet your governor and most prominent congress critter from your state don't obey their own decrees. Why is that? Could it be because they don't believe lock downs are actually effective?

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by Bondurant

Yet your governor and most prominent congress critter from your state don't obey their own decrees. Why is that? Could it be because they don't believe lock downs are actually effective?

Of course not. Newsom had dinner at the French Laundry because he was being selfish. You don’t actually think that him eating there was some sort of an indication that he doesn’t believe restrictions to be effective. That’s a hell of a leap.

[DKM]

Originally Posted by Bondurant

Yet your governor and most prominent congress critter from your state don't obey their own decrees. Why is that? Could it be because they don't believe lock downs are actually effective?

I spent time in AZ and around here during the pandemic and the overall adherence to masks or other public restrictions were the same in both places. I don't really care what politicians say.

[kell490]

The Vaccine starting to be available now to anyone here in Phoenix I just saw a post on Nextdoor local school was allow no appointment vaccines just show up. I got mine already local urgent care had it oddly my own doctor Honor health does not have the vaccine. This local urgent care in run down part of Phoenix had it was able to get my first shot last Monday. I think by mid summer covid be done here if many get vaccinated hopefully by then we can lose the mask get back to normal.