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Old 11-29-2011, 10:37 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Originally Posted by AKrunner88 View Post
If you are a good tipper like you say you are and respect the service industry like you say you do and frequent the same restaurants, guarantee you the servers there will remember you and treat you great.

And if it makes any black posters here feel better, Sundays are usually the days servers hate to serve the most because of white Church goers, who are notoriously ****ter tippers that only come out to eat on Sunday after Church.
But here's the thing...your opening post in this thread was not "I HATE White Christian church-going patrons on Sundays after church" it was "I HATE Black patrons".

 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Actually it was "I hate serving black patrons."
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by jerseygal4u View Post
Maybe there is sometime of action reaction going on.
Whites think black customers aren't going to tip well,so they give poor service to them.
Meanwhile,the black customers don't tip because of the poor service.

I wonder though,do white customers tip black waitstaff well?
First of all it's not just white servers. In my experience white servers are hesitant to vocalize their displeasure about severing blacks.

There probably is an element of a self fulfilling prophecy. Waiter thinks blacks won't tip, gives them poor service and black customer tips accordingly.

Still doesn't account for the tipping disparity.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Originally Posted by AKrunner88 View Post
If you are a good tipper like you say you are and respect the service industry like you say you do and frequent the same restaurants, guarantee you the servers there will remember you and treat you great.

And if it makes any black posters here feel better, Sundays are usually the days servers hate to serve the most because of white Church goers, who are notoriously ****ter tippers that only come out to eat on Sunday after Church.
Yes, but I shouldn't have to become a frequent diner to receive good service. I shouldn't have to prove myself to be treated with courtesy. That's what you don't seem to get.

And your comments about Christians doesn't make me feel any better. Why would I feel good about yet another group of people being stereotyped and treated poorly?
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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Good luck for you, no money no honey. Let's see you can retain good servers that can deal obnoxious customers with your compensation, I wonder how great is that.
We have no problem retaining staff at our restaurants. Why do you think I would need luck? I feel that our rate of $12 - $16 per hour (PLUS tips) is competitive enough to keep our staff, which is excellent and we appreciate very much.

To put it into perspective, I coat check girl made $61,200 after tips in 2010. I think she's fairly compensated for looking pretty, upkeeping her fashion, and politely checking coats.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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First of all it's not just white servers. In my experience white servers are hesitant to vocalize their displeasure about severing blacks.

There probably is an element of a self fulfilling prophecy. Waiter thinks blacks won't tip, gives them poor service and black customer tips accordingly.

Still doesn't account for the tipping disparity.
Actually, it does. In fact, you just did.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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I have a good idea. If black folks are such bad customers, then run a campaign saying that blacks are no longer welcome at your restaurant. That'll should solve the problem, and you'll have happy servers.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 10:58 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Originally Posted by AKrunner88 View Post
Actually it was "I hate serving black patrons."
Same difference
 
Old 11-29-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: around racist white people
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Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
Sounds like a personality issue. I'm not hearing discrimination.

Although the general reputation in the restaurant industry is that blacks are horrible customers and servers of all races try to minimize their exposure to black patrons. When I waited tables during undergrad, servers used to call Black patrons "Canadians" and pay hostesses not to seat Blacks in their section. Ironically this was done mostly black servers who did this as the white servers still operated under the illusion that all customers were equal.

I find it hard to believe a restaurant manager in this day and age would be so bold as to assign a server a black section but I guess it's possible if the other servers are finding ways not to serve them.
Considering the fact that most people assume blacks don't tip, i can see her boss assigning her to wait on blacks since the census is we will support our own meaning we will more likely tip a black person than tip a white person. I won't go as far to say this fellow is racist but I can understand the thinking, however this goes on everywhere to be blunt.
 
Old 11-29-2011, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Originally Posted by stick2dascript View Post
Considering the fact that most people assume blacks don't tip, i can see her boss assigning her to wait on blacks since the census is we will support our own meaning we will more likely tip a black person than tip a white person. I won't go as far to say this fellow is racist but I can understand the thinking, however this goes on everywhere to be blunt.

Blacks tip just as ****ty to black servers as whites, at least judging by what black servers I work with have told me.
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