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Old 05-31-2009, 12:04 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Americans can get free cancer treatments contrary to what some would have others believe.
Like who? My friend died of cancer. He had no insurance, was in the hospital for 2 weeks before he died. Because he lived w/me for a couple months before he went into the hospital, I received his medical bill. It was for approximately $100,000.00. They sent his bills to my apartment twice before I called them & informed them that he died in their hospital, why the hell are they sending his bills to me?
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Americans can get free cancer treatments contrary to what some would have others believe.
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I have the site for the cancer centres of america. it says that they give treatment through insurance companys. if you cant afford treatment or your insurance company is not used by their hospitals they will give you details of other hospitals that might use your insurance company.
they dont give free cancer treatment.
I was starting to wonder about that. My daughter's cancer treatment wasn't free, though insurance covered most of it. If there were a place where cancer treatment were "free", all the oncologists would refer their patients there.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:14 PM
 
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LOL, I'd like to know of an insurance company that pays for cosmetic surgery cause I would SO be in on that!
Yeah, no kidding! I've had plastic surgery covered under insurance, but it was reconstructive. That's the only cosmetic surgery you can get covered under health insurance. Plain old "I don't like my face - fix it!" surgeries are cash, baby, cash. Well, plastic works, too.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:23 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Yeah, no kidding! I've had plastic surgery covered under insurance, but it was reconstructive. That's the only cosmetic surgery you can get covered under health insurance. Plain old "I don't like my face - fix it!" surgeries are cash, baby, cash. Well, plastic works, too.
Under the UHC in the UK..ALL reconstructive sugery is free. If you can show that your boobs are giving you a problem because of their size etc.. then breast reduction or augmentation is free. To be honest , if you can find a medical reason as to why you want something done..it is available on the NHS.
The NHS also prescribes Viagra free and many other such drugs to people with chronic illnesses such as diabetes etc.
I know a woman who had a stomach band to make her lose weight as she was morbidly obese..ALL on the NHS and nothing to pay except the small tax each month that is absolutely tiny compard to premiums in America and it covers everyone. Doesn't that sound awful....NOT!
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:24 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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Under the UHC in the UK..ALL reconstructive sugery is free. If you can show that your boobs are giving you a problem because of their size etc.. then breast reduction or augmentation is free. To be honest , if you can find a medical reason as to why you want something done..it is available on the NHS.
The NHS also prescribes Viagra free and many other such drugs to people with chronic illnesses such as diabetes etc.
I know a woman who had a stomach band to make her loe weight as she was morbidly obese..ALL on the NHS and nothing to pay except the small tax each month that is absolutely tiny compard to premiums in America and it covers everyone. Doesn't that sound awful....NOT!
I agree that reconstructive plastic surgery should be covered, but not plastic surgery simply because you don't like the way you look. I also think that if viagra is covered, than birth control also should be covered.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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LOL, I love this argument. Guess what? As people who are against gay marriage like to say, "marriage is not a right in the constitution", however heteros are able to get married. Can't quite figure that one out Maybe I should rephrase it & say "because people SHOULD be allowed to get help when they're sick because it is the humane & right thing to do". Does that help, or are you ok w/allowing your best friend, family member, co-worker, neighbor, etc. live w/a possible terminal disease & have to worry about living out the rest of their lives paying for that? Wait, don't answer that, I already know. I just love the love that's spreading in this thread!
It's a fallback postition. If you are really looking for a constitutional argument, the preamble gives the govt. the right to "promote the general welfare". That should be enough, but it never is.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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I agree that reconstructive plastic surgery should be covered, but not plastic surgery simply because you don't like the way you look. I also think that if viagra is covered, than birth control also should be covered.
I've always wondered why things like viagra and birth control pills are free yet tampons aren't. It's not a choice to have periods so women should get their tampons free simply on health and hygene grounds.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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I've always wondered why things like viagra and birth control pills are free yet tampons aren't. It's not a choice to have periods so women should get their tampons free simply on health and hygene grounds.
LOL, that's a damn good idea!
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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Like who? My friend died of cancer. He had no insurance, was in the hospital for 2 weeks before he died. Because he lived w/me for a couple months before he went into the hospital, I received his medical bill. It was for approximately $100,000.00. They sent his bills to my apartment twice before I called them & informed them that he died in their hospital, why the hell are they sending his bills to me?
I am so so so so sorry and sad to hear that.

This is why National health care is needed.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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It's a fallback postition. If you are really looking for a constitutional argument, the preamble gives the govt. the right to "promote the general welfare". That should be enough, but it never is.
The American constitution has at various times been amended. It is equiped for that to happen. Using the constitution as a reason not to get a UHC is ludicrous. The founding fathers idea of medicine was a quick read of the bible. This is not the same world as in the day of the puritans, if it was i'm sure that many things we accept as normal would be banned.
Health is NOT a luxury item just for those who can afford it but the aeguments against America having a 21st century health system for all are based on pure selfishness and a absolute fear of not being first in the line where health is concerned.
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