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Old 06-17-2016, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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What I have long suspected seems to be true: you don't read posts about what you do......
I don't need you, or anyone to tell me what I do, or what I believe. I read you, Warden etc flat out lie about other people, and their beliefs, and I will simply call a lie for what it is. Sorry if it offends you.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, Finn. I believe you have excreted those thoughts 3 or 4 times now.

All you have to do is show me a Christian fundamentalist killed in North America just for being a Christian fundie.

At that point, I will feel just terrible for causing it. :roll eyes:
Nice deflection. I asked you to show where I have railed against gays. Where is the quote?

Last time Christians were killed in US was in California. There was also a school shooting where the killer asked Christians to stand up before shooting them. You have their blood on your hands (according to your own argument), and your repose is to say "I feel terrible" followed by "sarcasm" smiley, meaning you feel the opposite of terrible.

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Old 06-17-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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Oh stuff it. We were BANNED from marrying based on the gender of the person we wanted to marry.
You were required to marry the same as anyone else, regardless of gender or sexual choices.
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YOU claim that you don't want any harm for us, yet you advocate for laws that harm us. In this country we have the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Laws that ban me from marriage infringe on my liberty and my pursuit of happiness. Laws that allow me to be denied service are not treating me equally under the law.
And from my perspective, you advocate for laws that harm us. In this country we also have the right to life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. You had the right to marry--the same rights I had. That wasn't good enough and you wanted different rights to suit your minority.
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YOU are promoting the very thing that encourages discrimination, and brutality towards me and those like me.
No...we're not the ones shooting up nightclubs.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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You were required to marry the same as anyone else, regardless of gender or sexual choices.
I've seen this childish " you had the same rights to marriage as me " obtuseness by other intellectually bereft posters unwilling to be honest and address what was actually being said . It is just as lame and childish every single time I see it again.


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And from my perspective, you advocate for laws that harm us. In this country we also have the right to life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. You had the right to marry--the same rights I had. That wasn't good enough and you wanted different rights to suit your minority.

What laws do they want that will harm you ? When we had an entire thread about this the ONLY thing your side managed was " it's not legal for us to be mean to them anymore and violate their rights ". So , once again, is there anything you can offer about how they are wanting laws that harm you passed ?
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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I've seen this childish " you had the same rights to marriage as me " obtuseness by other intellectually bereft posters unwilling to be honest and address what was actually being said . It is just as lame and childish every single time I see it again.
But it's so true. We don't make special rules for every variation of marriage preference...why is homosexuality different?

Why don't we have incestual marriage? Why not polygamous? It's because society has deemed those things to be unnecessary, or harmful.
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What laws do they want that will harm you ? When we had an entire thread about this the ONLY thing your side managed was " it's not legal for us to be mean to them anymore and violate their rights ". So , once again, is there anything you can offer about how they are wanting laws that harm you passed ?
Redefining marriage to suit the whims of a very small minority only serves to harm the institution of marriage. It certainly doesn't strengthen the family unit in America.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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You are just as bad as the one who actually pulled the trigger. I hope that your god is real and he sees what you are enabling.

At one time I was fine with you having your beliefs as long as they didn't step on my toes, but not anymore. Your way of thinking has to be eradicated. YOU are the enemy just as much as the one who kills.
You are way out of touch with reality. I'm sorry you have such a bigoted attitude about this. Honestly....you are just way out there.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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But it's so true. We don't make special rules for every variation of marriage preference...why is homosexuality different?

Why don't we have incestual marriage? Why not polygamous? It's because society has deemed those things to be unnecessary, or harmful.


Redefining marriage to suit the whims of a very small minority only serves to harm the institution of marriage. It certainly doesn't strengthen the family unit in America.
My marriage HARMS marriage? What about the multiple divorces? The cheating? The domestic abuse in your own community?

Clean your own house before even mentioning the dust on my nick nacks, preacher.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Redefining marriage to suit the whims of a very small minority only serves to harm the institution of marriage. It certainly doesn't strengthen the family unit in America.
How is marriage any different for heterosexuals?

How are heterosexuals forced to marry people of the same sex?

Nothing has changed for heterosexuals AT ALL with SSM. You are just as free to do and believe what you want now, as before.

Show me how it is anything but sour grapes that you are being denied a major way to feel superior to those vile sinners --er, gays -- because you can marry who you want and they can't marry who they want.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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You were required to marry the same as anyone else, regardless of gender or sexual choices.
And from my perspective, you advocate for laws that harm us. In this country we also have the right to life, liberty,and the pursuit of happiness. You had the right to marry--the same rights I had. That wasn't good enough and you wanted different rights to suit your minority.
No...we're not the ones shooting up nightclubs.
What laws harm you, Vizio??? This tragedy has exposed the unbelievably hardened hearts of fundamentalists. How they can be so oblivious to the absolutely ANTI-Christ nature of their attitude and responses to this tragedy is mind-boggling. It becomes clear they have no clue what Christ's message of love was all about. The "precepts and doctrines of men" have so completely corrupted Christ's Gospel beyond all recognition and enables this incredibly hard-hearted stance to be seen by fundies as righteous. It takes self-righteous ignorance and superstition to new heights.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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My marriage HARMS marriage? What about the multiple divorces? The cheating? The domestic abuse in your own community?

Clean your own house before even mentioning the dust on my nick nacks, preacher.
Why the false dichotomy? Yes--heteros have harmed marriage, too...but there is no reason to abandon it. It's possible to defend the institution of marriage from both groups harming it.
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