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Missouri is slightly below the national average for having population with a bachelor degree. But when you compare Missouri to, I don't know, some random midwestern state such as Wisconsin, the difference is hardly statistically significant: 25.7 for Wisconsin, 25.2 for Missouri. Missouri is higher than several core midwestern states, including Iowa (surprisingly), Ohio, Michigan and Indiana.
And while Missouri is again slightly below the national average for percentage of population with a graduate degree, it is significantly higher in that regard than, say, I don't know, Wisconsin, with Missouri at 9.5% and Wisconsin at 8.4%. Missouri also ranks higher in this regard than a number of other core midwestern states in addition to Wisconsin, including Iowa, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.
If one is looking at the midwest region, which we were, it is hard to say Missouri is below average in educational attainment compared to other core midwestern states. Again, the midwest states that really jump out above average here are states like Minnesota that are less densely populated, are more ethnically homogeneous and have fairly low, relative to the other states in the midwest, minority populations. I'm actually curious why Wisconsin doesn't rank higher.
And Missouri has a fairly high percentage of population with a graduate degree relative to our other midwestern states - presumably due to two fairly large metro areas.
I live in Madison,WI, Dane County, and the area has a much higher level of educational attainment. The numbers for WI overall are somewhat less due to Milwaukee County weighing down the numbers... Minnesota has the best overall educational attainment rankings in the Midwest.
1. Ohio - Great big cities, though this state is the least Midwest, in my opinion. It's more a confluence of Midwest, Northeast and even South. It has little in common with South Dakota and Kansas.
2. Wisconsin - Madison and the lake
3. Minnesota - the wilderness and MSP
4. Illinois - Chicago and that's all.
5. Iowa - underrated and scenic
I'm indifferent toward Missouri. Michigan's northern scenery is nice; Detroit is putrid. I wouldn't want to live in Indiana.
Missouri is slightly below the national average for having population with a bachelor degree. But when you compare Missouri to, I don't know, some random midwestern state such as Wisconsin, the difference is hardly statistically significant: 25.7 for Wisconsin, 25.2 for Missouri. Missouri is higher than several core midwestern states, including Iowa (surprisingly), Ohio, Michigan and Indiana.
And while Missouri is again slightly below the national average for percentage of population with a graduate degree, it is significantly higher in that regard than, say, I don't know, Wisconsin, with Missouri at 9.5% and Wisconsin at 8.4%. Missouri also ranks higher in this regard than a number of other core midwestern states in addition to Wisconsin, including Iowa, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio.
If one is looking at the midwest region, which we were, it is hard to say Missouri is below average in educational attainment compared to other core midwestern states. Again, the midwest states that really jump out above average here are states like Minnesota that are less densely populated, are more ethnically homogeneous and have fairly low, relative to the other states in the midwest, minority populations. I'm actually curious why Wisconsin doesn't rank higher.
And Missouri has a fairly high percentage of population with a graduate degree relative to our other midwestern states - presumably due to two fairly large metro areas.
And Missouri's two large metro areas COMBINED still are not large than Detroit metro or Chicago metro. And Ohio has SEVERAL large metro areas:
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1. Ohio - Great big cities, though this state is the least Midwest, in my opinion. It's more a confluence of Midwest, Northeast and even South. It has little in common with South Dakota and Kansas.
2. Wisconsin - Madison and the lake
3. Minnesota - the wilderness and MSP
4. Illinois - Chicago and that's all.
5. Iowa - underrated and scenic
I'm indifferent toward Missouri. Michigan's northern scenery is nice; Detroit is putrid. I wouldn't want to live in Indiana.
Ohio has very little in common with the Northeast, save the westernmost extensions of Pennsylvania and New York, which themselves are more like the Midwest than the Northeast.
1. South Dakota - unbelievable landscapes!
2. Illinois - the great Chicago with my favorite beach on the Indiana side (and I do like other parts of the state like Galena)
3. Kansas - home state, quintessentially Midwestern, crazy in terms of both weather and politics
4. Michigan - Great beaches
5. Minnesota - seems to be the healthiest
Nebraska and Iowa as an honorable mention. Missouri also has a lot of character. Though the Ozarks scared me as a child... There really isn't a state I don't like.
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1. South Dakota - unbelievable landscapes!
2. Illinois - the great Chicago with my favorite beach on the Indiana side (and I do like other parts of the state like Galena)
3. Kansas - home state, quintessentially Midwestern, crazy in terms of both weather and politics
4. Michigan - Great beaches
5. Minnesota - seems to be the healthiest
Nebraska and Iowa as an honorable mention. Missouri also has a lot of character. Though the Ozarks scared me as a child... There really isn't a state I don't like.
Agree with you on Kansas. I grew up there and have no intention of returning. The inmates are running the assylum there and the politics are ruining most things.
Agree with you on Kansas. I grew up there and have no intention of returning. The inmates are running the assylum there and the politics are ruining most things.
And yet it is still my favorite state. Like I said, it's home.
If one is looking at the midwest region, which we were, it is hard to say Missouri is below average in educational attainment compared to other core midwestern states. Again, the midwest states that really jump out above average here are states like Minnesota that are less densely populated, are more ethnically homogeneous and have fairly low, relative to the other states in the midwest, minority populations. I'm actually curious why Wisconsin doesn't rank higher.
That's a cute little theory, but....no, just no. Minnesota and Missouri have almost identical non-Hispanic white populations (86.9% vs. 86.5%). Minnesota has higher Hispanic and Asian-American populations, and the Twin Cities metro area has significantly more foreign-born residents than either St. Louis or KC....so I'm guessing the state as a whole probably does, too?
The only reason you even bring that up is, presumably, some insecurities about MO's schools? The answer is way, way, way less convoluted than ethnic homogeneity. The answer is that MN funds its schools effectively, and MO doesn't.
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