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Old 08-26-2019, 05:54 AM
 
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I agree with Rachel. To appease Muslims, the Democrat party, and many Democrats have become anti Jewish, and anti Israel. Many SECULAR Jews whom are rabidly Progressive, much more than they are "Jewish", are overly critical of Jews and Israel.
Thank you, PIlot.

And what it makes it even more infuriating is that Democrats venomously attack Jews (primarily the more observant) who refuse to side with the HAMAS-led Palestinians. They are so hateful toward Jews who support Israel that they will come out of the woodwork to call them all sorts of horrific names and accuse them of things that are entirely untrue. (Perhaps you noticed on another thread, totally unrelated to Israel, that a leftist came out of the blue, swinging, calling me out as a "killing Zionist.")
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:01 AM
 
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And another thing.....the Dems are furious with the statement that they are disloyal to the Jewish people if they vote for the party that puts antisemties on critical House committees dealing with Israel.

What do these Dems think we conservative Jews have been dealing with for the past three years? i've been called a "bad Jew," told "real Jews don't vote for Republicans," a "Hitler-child who supports Nazi Israel," and all sorts of venomous things. And why? Because I'm not voting for the Democrat.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

P.S. it is especially disgusting when a non-observant Jew calls an observant Jew a "bad Jew." They do that because they know that a Jew who keeps kosher, goes to services on Shabbat, takes Torah classes, etc., feels very strongly about Judaism - and it's a LOW BLOW.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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If your real-Jews comment was directed at me, you misrepresented it. Here's what I said, "Real Jews value Tsedaka and the concept of caring for those in need, which is the antithesis of the Republican party, the party of hypocrites." Am I wrong about that?

Which party is trying to cut social services?
Which party is fighting mightily against helping refugees from Central America?
Which party is against LGBT/trans people?
Which party is against public schools?
Which party is against women's rights?

Answer: REPUBLICANS.

Your ancestors were most likely in desperate need when they immigrated to the US. And now that you're here, you want to burn the bridge so others cannot follow. Where is the Tsedaka in that?
Giving money to a church is more in line with the Torah than supporting lgbt and abortion on demand
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:28 AM
 
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I don't think you understand the situation.

Most "conservative" Jew talk show hosts are simply entertainers...doing it for the money. This is the era where you can fake that you are one thing or another and make millions doing it.

The people you mention have zero to do with being Jewish and everything to do with being actors.

No shift is underway. From the start of time people have been paid to put forward certain opinions. As one guy said to Tucker (and he refused to air it)..."Y'all are Millionaires being paid by Billionaires to say what they want you to".

As far as "liberals first"...again, you don't get it. Our training means one must be a "liberal", just as a Jesuit Priest must help the poor and others. You could say the same thing about Quakers "Liberals and Pacifists first and Christians second"........but that would be just as crazy.

One thing informs the others.

"Tikkun olam ” (Hebrew for “world repair”) has come to connote social action and the pursuit of social justice. The phrase has origins in classical rabbinic literature and in Lurianic kabbalah, a major strand of Jewish mysticism originating with the work of the 16th-century kabbalist Isaac Luria."
Tikkun Islam appears in the mishina, and certainly had NOTHING to do with progressivism.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:29 AM
 
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There are numerous incidents like this happening by non trump supporters








Https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOIpYndMGJ4

Interesting that so many of the comments on this video reference right wing Anti-Semitic canards. For example, many blame the Jews themselves for these attacks because they support immigration and minority rights.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:32 AM
 
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And another thing.....the Dems are furious with the statement that they are disloyal to the Jewish people if they vote for the party that puts antisemties on critical House committees dealing with Israel.

What do these Dems think we conservative Jews have been dealing with for the past three years? i've been called a "bad Jew," told "real Jews don't vote for Republicans," a "Hitler-child who supports Nazi Israel," and all sorts of venomous things. And why? Because I'm not voting for the Democrat.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

P.S. it is especially disgusting when a non-observant Jew calls an observant Jew a "bad Jew." They do that because they know that a Jew who keeps kosher, goes to services on Shabbat, takes Torah classes, etc., feels very strongly about Judaism - and it's a LOW BLOW.

No offense, but personal anecdotes mean squat on the internets.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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I agree with Rachel. To appease Muslims, the Democrat party, and many Democrats have become anti Jewish, and anti Israel. Many SECULAR Jews whom are rabidly Progressive, much more than they are "Jewish", are overly critical of Jews and Israel.
I think you got it backwards they embraced muslims, in order to throw jews under the bus. The Democrat party has actively thrown jews under the bus for decades.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:38 AM
 
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Interesting that so many of the comments on this video reference right wing Anti-Semitic canards. For example, many blame the Jews themselves for these attacks because they support immigration and minority rights.
There have been numerous such attacks in nyc and they are all coming from the Democrat base.
I rather have evil words than evil actions
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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There have been numerous such attacks in nyc and they are all coming from the Democrat base.
I rather have evil words than evil actions

And how do you know they are being targeted because they are Jewish?
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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And how do you know they are being targeted because they are Jewish?
People just randomly walk over to people they don't know and punch them. Especially identifiable jews.

Would you ask about this also?




https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XnyPw94k5gQ
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