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Your much larger, more culturally blessed RIVAL to the west, is the REVIVAL CITY of the ages ... CLEVELAND
Not to detract from Pittsburgh's obvious success, but your blunt statement is rather dis-ingenuous ... very short on the facts!
So is yours. I wouldn't say that 396,815 is much larger than 305,704, nor would I say that 2,881,937 is much larger than 2,447,393 either.
As for being "culturally blessed," that's subjective, but I'd put Pittsburgh's cultural assets and philanthropic foundations up against any other similar-sized metropolitan area in the United States.
And what makes Cincinnati less deserving than other cities? Why should Cincy be ignored?
The residents of Cincinnati voted TWICE in favor of the streetcar, despite the media's constant anti-streetcar articles/commentaryand straight up lies. I would say the people want it.
I'm saying if there are vocal enough opponents of it in Cincinnati, then maybe cities that have a much larger proportion of people clamoring for funding should get funding instead. Two referendums in two years span from each other to STOP the project is a bit much (though both ended up being defeated by fairly narrow margins).
Of course, I hope it gets off the ground and everything works swimmingly and many of the naysayers change their tune when it's up and running.
Your much larger, more culturally blessed RIVAL to the west, is the REVIVAL CITY of the ages ... CLEVELAND
Not to detract from Pittsburgh's obvious success, but your blunt statement is rather dis-ingenuous ... very short on the facts!
I disagree. Cleveland has investment projects and a nice downtown, but it also has massive stretches of blighted neighborhoods, with continued high levels of population loss. Cleveland is something in between Pittsburgh and Detroit. Cleveland has had many alleged comebacks over the past 35 years, but continues to be a sick man with serious challenges. Pittsburgh's overall health is much better than Cleveland's.
I am not from Pittsburgh, btw, and truthfully don't even give a **** about the city. But unlike every one else posting here I'm trying to answer the question objectively.
Cool story bro. Indianapolis is not, however, rust belt, something you should be thankful for. Go promote your city some place else.
speak of the devil for everyone on City-Data.com
Indianapolis was very rust belt. Broad is correct in that sense. By mid to late 1970s indianapolis and detroit were on parallel paths. One did something different and remade itseld and the other stayed status quo and fell. Even today u can see a lot of remnants in indianapolis. The city was also following the similar patterns of all rust belts. Strong democratic base, tax and sopend, republian suburbs. The gop one upped them by forming unigov which gave the gop control as it annexed former suburban areas into the blue collar city proper. That was in 1967. If it weren't for unigov indianapolis would be democrat from top to bottom. Even now the city is about 50-50 while the donut counties r strictly republican. *Quote Msamhunter*
If you failed to read what Msam said about Indy before.
If your not from Indianapolis plz save yourself from looking stupid.
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I disagree. Cleveland has investment projects and a nice downtown, but it also has massive stretches of blighted neighborhoods, with continued high levels of population loss. Cleveland is something in between Pittsburgh and Detroit. Cleveland has had many alleged comebacks over the past 35 years, but continues to be a sick man with serious challenges. Pittsburgh's overall health is much better than Cleveland's.
I am not from Pittsburgh, btw, and truthfully don't even give a **** about the city. But unlike every one else posting here I'm trying to answer the question objectively.
Good observation....I don't know Pittsburgh (or even Detroit) enough to verify right or wrong, but I find it true.
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speak of the devil for everyone on City-Data.com
Indianapolis was very rust belt. Broad is correct in that sense. By mid to late 1970s indianapolis and detroit were on parallel paths. One did something different and remade itseld and the other stayed status quo and fell. Even today u can see a lot of remnants in indianapolis. The city was also following the similar patterns of all rust belts. Strong democratic base, tax and sopend, republian suburbs. The gop one upped them by forming unigov which gave the gop control as it annexed former suburban areas into the blue collar city proper. That was in 1967. If it weren't for unigov indianapolis would be democrat from top to bottom. Even now the city is about 50-50 while the donut counties r strictly republican.
If you failed to read what Msam said about Indy before.
If your not from Indianapolis plz save yourself from looking stupid.
Say something negative about Indy....because I haven't seen any objectivity from you since I've seen your name on this forum. People (like me) are just going to think you are a rabble rousing homer every time you speak if you can't put things into perspective.
Say something negative about Indy....because I haven't seen any objectivity from you since I've seen your name on this forum. People (like me) are just going to think you are a rabble rousing homer every time you speak if you can't put things into perspective.
lol i dont need to explain things.
That movie explains it for me
Now sit back pop the popcorn and watch a truely remarkable urban transformation
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lol i dont need to explain things.
That movie explains it for me
Now sit back pop the popcorn and watch a truely remarkable urban transformation
Soooooo you can't say a bad thing about Indy? Okay....don't say I didn't give you a chance to be credible!
P.S. loaded the video but saw it was an hour, and decided to just peek and the beginning and end and didn't get much. TOO LONG man!
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