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I really like the last part. How much more Soviet can you get?
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Unfortunately, some in Ukraine are now doing their best to suppress this truth. A bill is now being considered by the Ukrainian parliament which would make it a criminal offence to deny ‘Russian aggression’. Rada Deputy Anton Gerashchenko, who is pushing the bill, has made it clear that he sees it as a way of silencing those who would call the war in Donbass ‘a civil war’. We must hope that the bill never becomes law. If it does, it will become impossible for Ukrainians to address the truth of what has happened to their country.
Jeez...
I thought it was all *Russian propaganda* when I've read it first, but I see now everything here is in Ukrainian language.
Whatever TV channel that is, but to the poll "Which criminal government do you prefer - the previous one (Yanukovitch) or today's ( Poroshenko) - 92% responded they prefer Yanukovich.
In spite of you guys nonstop propaganda, Russia still isn't winning in Ukraine. btw, trains to Rostov stopped going through Ukraine years ago, so this is "fake news" at best.
In spite of you guys nonstop propaganda, Russia still isn't winning in Ukraine. btw, trains to Rostov stopped going through Ukraine years ago, so this is "fake news" at best.
There's good reason for it. This link has better info.
Kharkov going into debt. I remember that Metro. I checked 13 locos there in 1997. Talented people and then they didn't need to borrow to pay their bills. Sure has changed.
In spite of you guys nonstop propaganda, Russia still isn't winning in Ukraine. btw, trains to Rostov stopped going through Ukraine years ago, so this is "fake news" at best.
And WHO is winning in Ukraine DKM? The US? The EU?
Do they?
Here is a thing DKM; winning Ukraine for the West is relatively easy ( after it has been peeled away from Russia in the nineties.) What it requires, is hard cold cash, and A LOT of it.
The kind of cash that will take Ukrainians out of their misery, will turn their lives around and will finally make them feel that their standards of living are comparable to those in Europe. THEN, and only then, the West ( the "collective West") can have them. The "survival of the fittest" version - i.e. you'll cut your general subsidies to population - your pensions, your salaries, your medical care, your education; you'll agree to work as cheap labor in "developed countries," and MAY BE ( just may be) you'll be allowed to be "part of Europe."
This particular version has been offered to Ukrainians lately - how is it working out for them?
Not so much, judging by the latest protests?
It looked for some time that this ( much milder version) worked for the neighboring Poland, but judging by the latest events it doesn't work all that great either, then?
These are the questions I have, since the win of pro-American V. Yushenko, with all those "orange revolutions"
Question - why didn't Americans purchase that country back then?
No killings, no "Maidan" and coup d'etat were needed. Just money, and a lot of it.
But there were no takers.
And so it obvious for Russians ( both in "Russia proper" and in Donbass,) that all these Maidan schemes, are not there to benefit Ukrainians, really ( no matter all these "freedom and democracy" slogans.)
Americans ( and EU) are there, simply to use Ukraine to their own advantage in their fight against Russia.
And since Russians already learned their lesson back in the nineties, they are basically correct when they are saying that the US will fight Russia till the last Ukrainian.
Kharkov going into debt. I remember that Metro. I checked 13 locos there in 1997. Talented people and then they didn't need to borrow to pay their bills. Sure has changed.
I wonder how much the fare is going to go up for the people. Those are LOANS!!!
Prostituting your own country to bankers. Damn that's pathetic.
Kharkiv and Odessa, those are sore spots for Russians for sure. I understand completely why your side is angry that they didn't choose Russia over the West (unlike Donetsk). As if its any shock that Kernes saw what was going to happen to Kharkiv if it turned into Donetsk, a catastrophe that it will never recover from. Donetsk used to be the 2nd most important city in Ukraine's economy and the power it had 5 years ago was unmatched. And now its a backwater shell of its former self.... I digress.
Kharkiv factories now humming with activity with mostly defense and rearmament programs happening, partially funded by NATO. You would be even more upset if you visit and see the mood of the university students in the city who are learning all about Europe and taking trips there on their breaks. They go to Warsaw and ask themselves if their own city can get to that level and how. And now this, European investment expanding their metro, new trains (badly needed) and modernizing the whole bit. Sorry, but Putin had his chance to improve Kharkiv before and win the hearts and minds there in a positive way. As for the loans, you are ignoring how ERBD works and why they pay for themselves from the modernization they employ and the savings from non corrupt bidding processes. Both funds are basically subsizded by the EU taxpayer so its hardly accurate to say that Ukrainians are getting a bad deal here.
Are you angry about the Chinese investment in Kyiv's metro? How about Germany looking to build a badly needed bridge in Kyiv? All those wealthy people from Donetsk are making Kyiv crowded.
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