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Old 12-19-2017, 12:18 PM
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So Russia helps criminals steal coal in Ukraine. How is that news?
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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So Russia helps criminals steal coal in Ukraine. How is that news?
You seriously claim that EU countries are buying stolen goods?
But, who's the criminal and who is not is a big question.To me, the criminals have seized power in Kiev. Now support them, and then be told "Oh, we didn't know that they are bad" As has happened many times )
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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Are there military battles in the disputed area in the current time.
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Old 12-19-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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Are there military battles in the disputed area in the current time.
Yes, say that is strongly intensified. Not fighting,but very intensified attacks, including heavy artillery, with the Kiev troops.
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:23 PM
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You seriously claim that EU countries are buying stolen goods?
But, who's the criminal and who is not is a big question.To me, the criminals have seized power in Kiev. Now support them, and then be told "Oh, we didn't know that they are bad" As has happened many times )
No, you claimed it. Russia has sent coal on trains to Europe for a very long time. I don't think buyers can reasonably demand it be sourced from certain areas (its coal, not a finished product). So if Russian railways report that they ship coal from occupied areas of Ukraine, that sounds like Russia helping them.

Those are probably DTEK mines and I doubt Akhmetov is getting paid for the coal, but then again maybe he is so its not stolen...

Criminals didn't "seize" power in Kiev, they have always been in power.
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:24 PM
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Yes, say that is strongly intensified. Not fighting,but very intensified attacks, including heavy artillery, with the Kiev troops.
Ukrainian troops are the correct term. The Ukrainian army is trading artillery with Russian troops.
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Old 12-19-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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Are there military battles in the disputed area in the current time.
Yes, Novolugansk was hit hard by the Ukrops. 8 civilians were killed/wounded and some soldiers killed/ wounded. One of the civvies was a 6 yr old child. Georgia battalion (Ukrop volunteers) took casualties, 8 or more. Specifics are not available.

The civilians that were wounded were said to be on a bus.
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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Here's a link from the Georgia Legion.

https://www.unian.info/war/2304394-g...-reported.html
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:58 PM
 
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Doni News. It's so confusing I don't know whos killing whos cookies and cows anymore. Lets just say they're shooting at one another again.

https://dninews.com
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Old 12-19-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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Are there military battles in the disputed area in the current time.
Yes, as the latest news have it.
And civilians are still wounded/dying in that area.

P.S. Another thing I've heard, is that in response that Canada getting ready to supply lethal weapons to Kiev, head of DNR Zakharchenko said that he is ready as well to supply weapons to 3,000 guerrilla ppl throughout Ukraine.
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