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Three are from Western Ukraine, one is from central-northern part.
None from the South- Eastern Ukraine - the Junta was trying not to send anyone from there initially, since many from those areas were deserting the army and switching sides.
In the past 6 years, Russia has killed more people in the world. You have to go back further to even the score.
Russia has definitely provided more weapons that have killed people in the past 10 years. It's not even close.
Lets do this again;
Last I saw, it is US troops and missiles wrecking havoc in the world. From deploying troops to fight in numerous countries, to raining down missiles via drone strikes, US has wrecked much havoc in the world, way more than compared to little ole Russia.
In the last 20 years, the US has far and beyond been responsible for more death a destruction than every other country in the world combined. The US is addicted to conflict, to war.
The US is by and far the world's largest arms dealer. In the last 20 years, US weapons have been responsible for more death a destruction than the combined armed sales of every country in the world.
It is a shame you are too blind to see such things, and even worse, advocate such things.
DKM, I think I already explained my point of view, that the ONLY decent people in this whole situation were Zakhar(chenko), Givi and Motorola, and what they stood for.
Now talking about the GALICIAN Nazi - the "mold" is correct, since Ukrainian nationalism hails originally from that region.
That some of the Russian speakers from the Eastern part of Ukraine JOINED that cult (the ethnic Russian Andrej Biletsky made it possible,) doesn't change the fact that overwhelming majority of the South-Eastern Russian -speaking Ukrainians are NOT part of the nationalist anti-Russian movement.
I never been to western ukraine and neither have you, so I don't think either of us commenting about what people there think, want or do is worthwhile.
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They might not like the current Russian government, but they know very well where they CULTURALLY and historically belong to.
And it ain't America or EU.
They belong to themselves and not your North Korean wannabe dystopia in Russia. I thought they already proved that by killing your "decent" people who came to Ukraine from Russia to enslave them. More will die trying no doubt. All to keep Putin in power from scary democracy. No worse than Batya threatening to steal children from any who dare oppose him in Belarus elections.
Because this is how Russian propaganda deals with reality. Their side killed and captured 2 Ukrainian soldiers who were Russian speakers from Donetsk and Belarus. This doesn't fit the mold that they are fighting Galacian nazis.
It's not just "Russian propaganda."
It's Ukrainian lies as well, coming from the opposite side.
So the story about "two Russian speakers" ( one of whom was supposedly was a "medic" that came to retrieve a body of the wounded soldier ( who ended up in the neutral zone on the DNR side for god knows what reason in the first place,) doesn't add up.
The Ukrainian side claims that the first group ( or persons) "lost their way" (don't remember all the details now,) and they asked for the cease fire, while sending the medic in "clearly-identifiable outfit with white helmet."
But DNR opened the fire anyways, claiming that it was not a "medic," but yet another special reconnaissance group that were operating in the area. The fact that they were all blown up on the landmines while on the mission was a proof of it, as far as Basurin was concerned, along with the high quality equipment ( from NATO countries) that DNR retrieved from the deceased.
So there was a lot of speculations going back and forth, what to believe - the official statement of Ukraine about the unlawful violation of the ceasefire by the DNR, ( when the medic ( who happened to carry Estonian passport) was trying to retrieve the wounded soldier from the area, or the accusation of the DNR authorities of Ukraine in illegal activities of the NATO-trained operatives in the area.
Until this latest video of the "Estonian" surfaced up - his body camera during his last hour of life.
(And this is Basurin's briefing, where he is pointing at all the night/day equipment from the NATO countries that they ( DNR) retrieved from the deceased. (All the bodies of the soldiers were passed to Ukrainian side afterwards.)
( Basurin said as well that one of the soldiers from "Aidar" battalion defected to DNR side, and he confirmed the presence of the contractors from NATO countries in the "occupied zone."
( Basurin names the person in question - his last name, his rank and his military occupation.)
Thanks for the confirmation Shariy is a Russian propagandist. U think he's ever going to get elected? hahaha
I understand, anyone who is against Ukrainian Nationalists is automatically a "Russian Propagandist."
How predictable of you.
With that being said, I love the short episode in the opening of this video, that PERFECTLY describes situation Ukrainians find themselves in, under NATO/IMF dominance. ( The guy is singing "Revolution, Revolution of Dignity.")
( In this video Sharij is telling about this whole latest fake operation of "hostage taking" - precisely as Scrat questioned it in his last post.
The idiots inn charge of this show wanted to evacuate the whole nearest building during the event, and for a good reason.
At the end they did not, and someone videotaped from the window the whole "hostage taking" grotesque show, that was apparently used to bump up the falling rating of Zelensky.
Yep, that will cause some people to get upset. Ukraine is a democratic country and allows these idiots to remain in office if elected.
Since when does terror, intimidation of the populace, murder of political opponents, corruption that would make a Russian blush, warfare inflicted on your own citizens, common thuggery and casual brutality have anything to do with civil society let alone democracy?
Remember that mother who was arrested as a spy on a train coming from Moscow? The one that seems to have just fallen into a black hole?
The last time anyone saw her was a picture her mother had from when she was brought to see her. She had black eyes, bruises all over her face.
How's that for democracy and rule of law. Is this woman still alive?
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