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Colonies are not meant to produce. They meant to be a dumping ground for Western production.
And what's even worse - with this kind of arrangements, the birth rate in Ukraine already fell 40% after 2014.
Ukrainian women will refuse to have children if they are not sure they can provide for them, so it's really easy to manipulate demographics in that part of the world (Russia/Ukraine/Belorussia, and most likely the rest of Eastern Europe.)
So yes, the US will fight Russia till the last Ukrainian, as it has been already said before.
That's because in Eastern Ukraine you have millions of people displaced by your Russkiy mir, fighting to keep Ukraine in the 3rd world with Russia. It will take years to calm that side of Ukraine down and millions will never return even when your heros are kicked out of their "new transnistra". If if ever happens... I'm not so optimistic Ukraine has the political will to regain these wastelands.
Blatant Russian propaganda. How sad this is the result of Russians clinging to the past. bbbut 2008 we were so reech and stronk! Nobody cares Ivan...
LAZ was owned by a Russian criminal group before finally closing in 2014. To present it as thriving in 2012 is very misleading at best. You are trying to present Ukraine's turn from Russia as a failure because one already failing factory owned by a Russian oligarch finally closed? That old soviet junk is being demolished and will be converted to a residential complex (due to increasing demand for housing from people fleeing your "russkiy mir".)
Meanwhile, Electromash in Lviv, is doing fine having taken it's place. Perhaps because it involves a German investor.
Watch and weep haters. Out with the old, in with the new.
Oh, nothing to be jealous about the Situation is quite sad. I hope the business survives.
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Bogdan Corporation announced an attempt by the Ukrainian authorities to bankrupt the company
January 18, 2020
According to lawyers representing the Bogdan automobile Corporation, the actions of the prosecutors may be evidence of the authorities ' desire to bring one of the largest Ukrainian automakers to bankruptcy. This is stated in the company's message on Friday.
Bogdan motors has appealed against the statement of claim of the Prosecutor General's office on the illegality of the novation agreement between the company and the state-owned Ukreximbank, Oleg Gladkovsky's company reported.
The corresponding review was provided by the Economic court. Kiev January 17, 2020. The company called the Prosecutor's office's charges absolutely groundless and far-fetched. And they promised that they would prove the validity and legality of the concluded contracts by all possible means.
Earlier, Bogdan said that "a catastrophic drop in the sales market led to the actual shutdown" of Ukraine's largest automaker. The capacity of the enterprise is not loaded and 10% of the design.
Yep, there are corruption related issues with Bogdan since it is still under oligarch control. These are things that need to be worked out, or it can go under like LAZ did.
The reality is more mixed since Polish busses and trams are highly competitive. This will force Ukrainian makers to adapt and build better to survive. No more subsidies though.
Yep, there are corruption related issues with Bogdan since it is still under oligarch control. These are things that need to be worked out, or it can go under like LAZ did.
The reality is more mixed since Polish busses and trams are highly competitive. This will force Ukrainian makers to adapt and build better to survive. No more subsidies though.
Stop stop. You defeated the oligarchs and corruption and threw them out of the country in 2014 , together with Yanukovich. The revolution against oligarchs and corrupt officials was successful. You don't mean to say it was all for nothing, do you? That even German capital does not guarantee immunity?
Stop stop. You defeated the oligarchs and corruption and threw them out of the country in 2014 , together with Yanukovich. The revolution against oligarchs and corrupt officials was successful. You don't mean to say it was all for nothing, do you? That even German capital does not guarantee immunity?
It was never claimed that oligarchs were removed in 2014... did you not see one was elected president then?
Oligarchs can function in the new Ukraine but they have to play fair and not gain through corruption. This is what Poroshenko failed to understand. He, like so many Russians, thought it was just picking Europe over Russia and instead missed the point of changing to a European system where corruption is reduced and laws are enforced. Some countries in the EU (but outside of the most important structures) are still missing that this is the over-all point (see Bulgaria). The cleansing of the system has only begun, but at least it has finally started. This is better than being Russian oriented where you are brainwashed to believe corruption is a fact of governance and must be accepted.
Laws rule the land in the civilized world. I don't care if Russia wants to live where laws are selectively enforced but they need to stop attacking Ukraine for trying to move towards a different system.
You're slightly understating Erasure. Colonies do produce, but only what they're allowed by their owners. Colonies are not allowed to be competitive in the relationship when it comes goods and products. Not in ways that will hurt their masters profit margins. Mann and Mercedes do not want Kraz to produce light trucks that could compete with their products.
Of course, of course - we've already heard about that "great growing GDP/PPP" of DKM and what a "great agricultural empire" Ukraine is going to be.
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The Nazis Plan Ost stated that the eastern territories were to be culled of the excess unproductive population by way of deprivations and the remaining fit population utilized on plantations and extraction of capital resources such as coal and bulk steel production. This would all be done under efficient Nazi administration using suitable members of the Master race.
See any similarities with what's going on today anyone?
Yes, it's yet another attempt to "divide and conquer," to subjugate, and ultimately - to destroy.
DKM of course doesn't see it this way - he is not perceptive enough, and thinks that the "ultimate evil" here is Russia from which Ukraine ( i.e. part of Russia) needs to be "saved."
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It's sad about Ukrainian women too. At best most will have 1 child in their lives if any at all. I really do wonder about the other EE states too. I keep hearing that the porn industry is booming in that part of the world. Where women are desperate such things become an option and it's not by choice for the most part.
What a success story this is.
You know, I saw a German documentary on Russia recently ( from Deutche Welle,) and although I am not sure how well it depicts "Russia" in general, but the portraits of Russian characters they've chosen to present there, were well-done I believe.
The first character presented there - Yelena, is the kind of women that I think are typical for that part of the world and nowhere else.
In fact when I think of the "typical Russian/Ukrainian women," that's the first image that comes to mind in a good sense of it ( I am not going to dwell on the negative types at this point.)
And in a strange way I've noticed, that's precisely the type that has been targeted lately for extinction ( after the fall of the Soviet Union.) And totally different, unfamiliar to me type became cultivated there, after the Americanization of that part of the world.
It's the type of women who think extremely highly of themselves, consider themselves as "beauties" and basically are set to dictate to men what price/money they better have to shell out before she would even consider dating them.
I am sure this type existed back in Soviet times as well - it's just it was suppressed because the system was dictating to everyone to "make their own money."
And of course Yelena's type - the type of loving mother was revered back then for obvious reasons.
But now her type of women ( as I've already said) is driven to extinction, while the other type is on the rise, and as by-product of it ( since the society changed) - the rise in prostitution, be that because of financial or other reasons.
Nice that the Russian war set them back a couple years but why would anyone miss 2014? What prosperity was in Ukraine during the Yanukovych days? I see why you keep focused on 2015 and the bad times then because the stats don't support the narrative of failure you so wished upon it. The Donbas on the other hand, totally ruined "Russian world".
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Yes, it's yet another attempt to "divide and conquer," to subjugate, and ultimately - to destroy.
DKM of course doesn't see it this way - he is not perceptive enough, and thinks that the "ultimate evil" here is Russia from which Ukraine ( i.e. part of Russia) needs to be "saved."
Yes, let's explore how the Russian war in Ukraine divided and conquered it with respect to population as you brought up.
Here is a school in the heart of Donbas away from where any fighting occurred.
That's because in Eastern Ukraine you have millions of people displaced by your Russkiy mir, fighting to keep Ukraine in the 3rd world with Russia.
Eastern Ukraine IS the part of "Russkiy mir," - what part is it of otherwise? Of the "French world?"
"German world?"
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It will take years to calm that side of Ukraine down and millions will never return even when your heros are kicked out of their "new transnistra". If if ever happens... I'm not so optimistic Ukraine has the political will to regain these wastelands.
You mean to beat it into submission with the help of the Nazi?
Not gonna work, judging by what I hear/see.
When people are happy with the changes and the level of prosperity is rising across the line,
that's all that counts and there is no need to point at the stats.
But if the "stats" show the "growth," but in reality it means that some group of people accumulates wealth, while for the majority the life is getting worse, those "stats" are worthless.
And that's the picture I observe so far in Ukraine, alas.
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Nice that the Russian war set them back a couple years but why would anyone miss 2014? What prosperity was in Ukraine during the Yanukovych days? I see why you keep focused on 2015 and the bad times then because the stats don't support the narrative of failure you so wished upon it. The Donbas on the other hand, totally ruined "Russian world".
From what THEY are saying - they felt more secure as far as the small business owners goes, they were better off in terms of medical care, in terms of pensions, bills, job security.
The safety on the streets was much better back then as well ( that's what THEY are saying, when comparing today's life with Yahukovich times.)
The buying capacity of grivna was much higher back then as well ( that's what they are pointing at,) so they feel that they were more prosperous back then, before the Maidan.
I wouldn't know about the level of their prosperity ( or not.)
I am only listening to what they are saying, while comparing.
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Yes, let's explore how the Russian war in Ukraine divided and conquered it with respect to population as you brought up.
Here is a school in the heart of Donbas away from where any fighting occurred.
You're narrative of ruined Ukraine is true...in the areas attacked by Russia. Congrats, they are all wishing to be like the Donbas soon.
I have no idea what you are trying to prove with your pictures.
It's not "Russia-Russia-Russia" that "divided Ukraine."
"Ukraine" was divided to begin with, historically and culturally, without any current "Russian interference." And that's why Western provinces of "Ukraine" were greeting German soldiers during the WWII, while the Easterners were fighting them tooth and nail.
And that's why after the coup d'etat in Kiev, the whole of Donetsk has risen in a protest, while "pro-Ukrainian" protest counted only 700-800 people the most.
Pointing finger at Russia here makes as much sense as blaming Russia today for the BLM protests, that Russia somehow is a force behind it all.
It's not the Russians that brought the slaves to America, so the conflict was simmering in US throughout the centuries on its own.
Therefore the crack in the foundation of America was always there, as much as the crack in the foundation of "Ukraine" as a "state."
So it was only a matter of time when those cracks would implode.
Of course some circles in America were hoping that Russia ( that has few cracks of her own in foundation,) would implode first, and were actually encouraging this to happen, with the help of people like Navalny, but to no avail. ( I know Ukrainian Nazi were counting on it for quite some time already,) but nope, no such luck, sorry.
Not now.
Not yet.
Everything is going to happen in a due time and in a certain order.
Before the Ukrainian population again loomed the specter of poverty, but this time extreme, on the verge of survival. If the law that the "Servant of the people" intends to push through the Parliament in September is passed, a significant number of low-income citizens (and most of them) will have to part with their own housing and property and move to live on the streets. The draft legislative act, drawn up under one of the mandatory conditions of the IMF under the colonial obligations assumed by Ukraine for a loan of a measly 1.2 billion euros, should introduce a new procedure for collecting utility payments and imposing fines for their delay. The draft law is called "on amendments to certain laws of Ukraine regarding the improvement of the procedure for repayment of consumer debt for housing and communal services". As of may 1, the debt for communal services in Ukraine reached a huge amount: more than 63 billion hryvnia. The collapse in non-payments began during the period of so-called reforms that began immediately after the "revolution of dignity". Yatsenyuk's reform activity was reduced to an explosive increase in tariffs for services that have not changed in any way qualitatively. Non-payments became a vertical problem, causing collapse on all floors of the system.
The bill contains truly shocking measures of influence on non-payers. The penalty limit for debt is set at 100%. In other words, your debt will double over time. Bailiffs will be able to:
- collect debt until it is fully repaid without applying the Statute of limitations;
- withhold up to 50 percent of the debtor's salary;
- foreclose on the debtor's property, that is, first of all, on his housing. Moreover, it will be possible to foreclose on both wages and property at the same time.
The current non-payments are by no means negligent citizens. Current rates are such that one monthly payment can be equal to a pension or salary. Especially in rural areas, where the house is on average larger in size than a city apartment. And if earlier the accumulation of debts did not particularly threaten low-income citizens, then after the adoption of the law, all their property will be immediately described and put up for sale after the judge's hammer is struck.
Manufacturers of tents should be ready for the increased demand.
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