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Old 09-16-2020, 12:47 PM
 
Location: City of Ange...devils.
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Not expect...The West has been destroying Russia since the 15th century, but it can't break it up in any way ... Russia even will outlive America...
Similarly how Romania paid off the IMF in the 80's, only to be toppled and then straddled with billions of debt to the Central Banks. The West enjoys exploiting Eastern Europe, North Africa and the Middle East and installing their puppets to enrich the bankers and Western corporations. Wait, wait...I mean they bring their benevolent "democracy."
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Meanwhile, the debts of Ukrainians for services have increased 10 times since 2016 alone ! Not by 10 % but by 1000% in 4 years. This is what sensible reform and success looks like. It's sad to be a colony..


PostScript. Moldova went through a similar process, I do not know how it is now, but about 10 years ago, subsidies to the poor were also announced there. But by standards, if you have a TV and a refrigerator, you don't fall into this category. A collection of papers, certificates of poverty - this is a separate sad song
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:28 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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And how many of you even know people who qualify for these subsidies? You ever helped someone fill out the forms and understand how they work? I'm guessing none. You repeat everything bad you can find about Ukraine on Russian news nonstop because that's the only way you can get back at them for leaving Russia behind. I know they have been using the "colony of the US" theme for a while since the prior attacks weren't working. And it is increasing again since the people are restless in Belarus. Hand picked out of context comparative data is presented as if there is a disaster in Ukraine trading with Europe. Now that people make more than ever, its hard to say how that's bad, so instead you go with it being controlled as a colony since why would people want to live in a normal country with laws when they can have Belarus where you get poverty together with police beatings.

I don't really believe Russia will reform itself. There is some younger mafia silovok ready to take the helm in 15 years or whenever Putin dies. As long as the money from selling natural resources to China and Germany goes to the right people at the top, the system will live on.
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:36 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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For those of you worried about Ukraine's fiscal health and "IMF debts" I present to you Ukraine's central bank reserves since hooking up with the evil IMF.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...=UA&start=2014

That ends in 2019 with 25.5 billion. In August (last month) the reserves reached 29 billion. That is a nearly 400% increase since the Yanukovych government collapsed. The evil IMF...
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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For those of you worried about Ukraine's fiscal health and "IMF debts" I present to you Ukraine's central bank reserves since hooking up with the evil IMF.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...=UA&start=2014

That ends in 2019 with 25.5 billion. In August (last month) the reserves reached 29 billion. That is a nearly 400% increase since the Yanukovych government collapsed. The evil IMF...
How much of this debt?
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Russia
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For those of you worried about Ukraine's fiscal health and "IMF debts" I present to you Ukraine's central bank reserves since hooking up with the evil IMF.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...=UA&start=2014

That ends in 2019 with 25.5 billion. In August (last month) the reserves reached 29 billion. That is a nearly 400% increase since the Yanukovych government collapsed. The evil IMF...
But for some reason you didn't mention that Ukraine's sovereign debt has grown by 300% since the Yanukovych government collapsed .. Forgot probably..
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:23 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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But for some reason you didn't mention that Ukraine's sovereign debt has grown by 300% since the Yanukovych government collapsed .. Forgot probably..
For 2 years they had little support and chaos so by 2016 it reached an all time high of 81% of GDP. Which has since fallen to 50% of GDP, the largest decrease in the world in the past 4 years. When Yanukovych fled it was also the same level.

Speaking of increases, the Ukraine posts by Russians on here sure has increased since Russia got involved in the Belarus uprising. What are you all so afraid of?
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Old 09-17-2020, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Russia
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For those of you worried about Ukraine's fiscal health and "IMF debts" I present to you Ukraine's central bank reserves since hooking up with the evil IMF.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...=UA&start=2014

That ends in 2019 with 25.5 billion. In August (last month) the reserves reached 29 billion. That is a nearly 400% increase since the Yanukovych government collapsed. The evil IMF...
In General, the reserves for today, according to the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance, amount to 31.08.2020 29 048,71 246.22 +0.85% slightly more than 29 billion dollars, and this is 95% currency and 5% monetary gold . And the external public debt as of 31.07.2020 52,536,3595 7.3% is fifty-two billion dollars, and the total debt is slightly more than 121,000,000,000 one hundred and twenty-one billion dollars. This is called growth ! It's sad to be a colony.
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:07 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Debt to reserves is important but not as important as debt to GDP (the ability to pay). Ukraine's debts will grow as its economy grows because they will finance things which will improve their economy. The plan is to borrow more and grow the economy further once the virus situation is over. Primarily it is massively updating its transportation network. It is even more urgent in cities which have an influx of people who resettled from Russia's war against the Donbas.
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:22 PM
 
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Debt to reserves is important but not as important as debt to GDP (the ability to pay). Ukraine's debts will grow as its economy grows because they will finance things which will improve their economy. The plan is to borrow more and grow the economy further once the virus situation is over. Primarily it is massively updating its transportation network. It is even more urgent in cities which have an influx of people who resettled from Russia's war against the Donbas.

That sounds like heck of a deal for Ukrainians.
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