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Old 03-10-2021, 10:40 PM
 
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That was a diplomat from the freaking TRUMAN administration! Who cares what he thought. Its 2021, Russia is fomenting conflict on NATO's borders and needs to stop before it gets burned badly.
Sure DKM, who cares what one of the greatest American diplomat and geopolitical strategist thought...
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:32 PM
 
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That was a diplomat from the freaking TRUMAN administration! Who cares what he thought.

Who cares what Ukrainian Nazi think in Kiev - that's what really unimportant.



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Its 2021, Russia is fomenting conflict on NATO's borders and needs to stop before it gets burned badly.

"I think it is the beginning of a new cold war,'' said Mr. Kennan from his Princeton home. ''I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies.

Exactly - it's 2021 and Russia IS reacting quite adversely, as it has been predicted.
And Russians shouldn't stop - au contraire, they should try to fix the mistake they did back in 2014.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:52 PM
 
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But anyways..
There are a lot of speculations going on now, because one of the *talking heads* of Ukrainian regime, said publicly that on the 15th of March, some "fateful decision" will be made ( and announced) for Ukraine.
Meanwhile, it looks like Ukrs keep on running to Germans and French, (the other two parties of the "Minsk protocol,") trying to convince them that the agreement they've signed before is "impossible to fulfill."

So they are trying to tweak it for their liking now apparently, but Moscow is not willing to accept anything different.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SsgA14yyk


P.S. I am curious what this is all about.

Whether it's really something serious or yet another bla-bla.
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Old 03-10-2021, 11:52 PM
 
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A little news from the feed. Crimea has started initiating lawsuits over the blocking of water supply through the Crimean channels. The process is at the very beginning, so the news remained out of wide coverage. They will not hit with missiles but on the wallet, which is much more painful and offensive ))
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Old 03-11-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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A little news from the feed. Crimea has started initiating lawsuits over the blocking of water supply through the Crimean channels. The process is at the very beginning, so the news remained out of wide coverage. They will not hit with missiles but on the wallet, which is much more painful and offensive ))

How Crimeans are going to enforce the result of the lawsuits, assuming the final rulings go in their favor which is a huge IF....
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Old 03-11-2021, 09:53 AM
 
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How Crimeans are going to enforce the result of the lawsuits, assuming the final rulings go in their favor which is a huge IF....
Yes, it will be a huge sum for Ukraine. Even if not all countries will implement these decisions.And the countries that will support them, they will, and it is not the United States, but those that are closer. And this all means that the gentlemen will have to fork out even more for the Ukrainian project .And everyone knows that gentlemen are very fond of taking money and very very do not like to fork out.
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Old 03-11-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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The Ukrs keep on pounding LDNR.
In Kherson vicinity the missile complex "Tochka U" has been noticed, moving towards the DNR border.
The news presenters are saying here that Ukrainian government used this complex against its own population 13 times in total starting from 2014.

At 4:14 you can see the footage of one of such occasions recorded by someone close to the event ( not sure whether it's Donetsk or some other Eastern Ukrainian city.)

The head of the DND Pushilin is saying that Ukrs are trying to provoke LDNR for military response, so that the Ukr gov. could blame them on breaking Minsk protocol.

All these talks about the "new peace agreement" that Kiev is trying to conduct behind LDNRs back won't do any good, since both Moscow and LDNR are not involved in them.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IkRoTqz49o


Meanwhile, some Ukrainians keep on collecting funds and humanitarian aid for the inhabitants of these republics ( a person in charge of deliveries is saying that help is coming even from as far as Western Ukraine, with people saying how ashamed they are for the actions of their government.

(And really, when you see how the villagers are barely surviving in the basements of the buildings, being pounded by the heavy artillery, with all infrastructure destroyed around them, it's outrageous.)

Of course *some* people think that they don't matter and it's their time to die, in order to give way to "new and democratic Ukraine."
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Old 03-11-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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The Ukrs keep on pounding LDNR.
In Kherson vicinity the missile complex "Tochka U" has been noticed, moving towards the DNR border.
The news presenters are saying here that Ukrainian government used this complex against its own population 13 times in total starting from 2014.

At 4:14 you can see the footage of one of such occasions recorded by someone close to the event ( not sure whether it's Donetsk or some other Eastern Ukrainian city.)

The head of the DND Pushilin is saying that Ukrs are trying to provoke LDNR for military response, so that the Ukr gov. could blame them on breaking Minsk protocol.

All these talks about the "new peace agreement" that Kiev is trying to conduct behind LDNRs back won't do any good, since both Moscow and LDNR are not involved in them.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IkRoTqz49o


Meanwhile, some Ukrainians keep on collecting funds and humanitarian aid for the inhabitants of these republics ( a person in charge of deliveries is saying that help is coming even from as far as Western Ukraine, with people saying how ashamed they are for the actions of their government.

(And really, when you see how the villagers are barely surviving in the basements of the buildings, being pounded by the heavy artillery, with all infrastructure destroyed around them, it's outrageous.)

Of course *some* people think that they don't matter and it's their time to die, in order to give way to "new and democratic Ukraine."

So how long do you think before the starting of fireworks?? The Ukronazi must have received some sort of tacit support from the Good Old Joe folks about this...they would not do it on their own.
Do you think there is any linkage with the effort to stop NS2?? Trying to provoke a military reaction and forcing Germany, pressured by the US and other EU countries, to abandon the project as a response so "renewed Russian aggression"??
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Old 03-11-2021, 12:54 PM
 
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So how long do you think before the starting of fireworks?? The Ukronazi must have received some sort of tacit support from the Good Old Joe folks about this...they would not do it on their own.
Do you think there is any linkage with the effort to stop NS2?? Trying to provoke a military reaction and forcing Germany, pressured by the US and other EU countries, to abandon the project as a response so "renewed Russian aggression"??

Yes, at least that's what it sounds like.

I keep on listening to their other news, and from what "Strana UA" is reporting today, ( if I can make a short synopsis,) is that the Ukrs keep on blabbering about some "new peace plan, proposed ( supposedly) by France and Germany" ( who are silent on the matter so far.)

So I am not sure what "Good Old Joe folks" are thinking about this at this point, because may be BY NOW they realized how serious the problem is, because unquestionably backing Ukrainian government on Donbass, they will run into direct military confrontation with Russia. ( I have no idea who and why hoped that Russia would simply back down,) but Ukrs game for now is to talk about this "new peace plan" (under which they basically want Donbass to surrender) that they are ready to introduce within "the next three weeks". ( Which is a big question yet again, since their gov. representatives are naming different dates,) but meanwhile they keep on moving their troops to LDNR borders. As in "accept our new peace proposal or else."
Yes it looks like that if Moscow won't accept their "latest proposal," they want to provoke the military conflict, and then to demand more sanctions on Russia, particularly when it comes to Nord Stream 2.

The accomplishment of it will deliver the last ( and heaviest) blow to their economy.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI7e5gEmWbs


P.S. From what I understand, Biden still didn't call Zelensky so far ( after Biden officially became president.)

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Old 03-11-2021, 01:30 PM
 
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So how long do you think before the starting of fireworks?? The Ukronazi must have received some sort of tacit support from the Good Old Joe folks about this...they would not do it on their own.
Do you think there is any linkage with the effort to stop NS2?? Trying to provoke a military reaction and forcing Germany, pressured by the US and other EU countries, to abandon the project as a response so ”renewed Russian aggression”??
I think its all about promotion of conflict between Russia and eastern Europe. Anything, absolutely ANYTHING to keep the Russophobic narrative going. ANYTHING to throw a wrench in any relations between Russia and European countries.

Ukraines junta doesn't care about the people involved. Nor does anyone else involved in it. They may be hoping Russia does something as it will give them more ammunition in the political fight.

What they may forget is European powers know what is going on and I don't think Russia will see bad things in the future that it can't handle.

In most of the world the situation is understood. It's a matter of ”We saw what you did” and there are eyes on Ukraine and the US.
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