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Right Sektor isn't being sent to Southeast Ukraine, that's nonsense.
"According to Yarosh, Right Sector has recruited retired officers of the interior ministry and the security agencies. He told Newsweek that the group coordinates its actions with the army and the National Security and Defense council and that "as in any army" it has specialists who are trained to use S-300 antiaircraft missiles.[11]"
So now, when the national guard is sent to Ukraine, it includes the fighters from Pravy Sector as well.
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They're a paramilitary group organized in one of the poorest countries in Europe which is currently completely destabilized. You're acting as if a transitional government that can't even put down Russian provocateurs can somehow direct a far-right group that does what it pleases.
It can't since such phrase as "Russian provocateurs" are Western propaganda, and Eastern Ukrainians do indeed resist the new illegitimate (to their understanding) government in Kiev.
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We'll see whether the majority of the population of ethnic Ukrainians wants to look towards the EU and US,
They already looked "towards the EU and US" back in the nineties,( both Ukrainian and Russian population by the way,) but West was not interested in improving their lot - what it was interested first and utmost in, was the destruction of the Soviet Union. Likewise, in current situation the goal of the West is not to improve the lives of average Ukrainians, but to hit Russian geopolitical interests and to have some gains for Western corporations whenever possible.
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or back towards an annexing power that just forcibly annexed part of the country and organized a mock referendum,
Crimea is quite content and happy to be included back in Russia.
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committed a massive genocide, the Holodomor, on the population from 1932-1933,
Golodomor was a result of Stalin's policies directed at peasants, both Ukrainian and Russian alike, since they were interfering with his drive for rapid industrialization. Ukraine happened to be one of the most agrarian parts of Russia, that's why they've suffered more than other regions of the Soviet Union. At the end however, they were one of the biggest beneficiaries of industrialization as well.
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and clearly renegged on its 1993 agreements to not claim the Crimean peninsula in exchange for keeping its Black Sea fleet there.
All the "agreements" of the nineties were written in a historic period, when the hand of Russian president has been guided by "American advisers" sitting in Kremlin.
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Those were his words, even he regrets it, as Ukraine is never getting Crimea back.
His words don't mean much, because it was Moscow's decision irrespectively of Yanukovich's decisions.
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Ironically, that illegal annexation might have just reversed centuries of Russian domination and influence,
Nuh, it didn't "reverse" anything. The anti-Russian sentiment that was always there among certain part of Ukrainian population was not affected by Crimean events, it was more "I told you so" kind of thing - the reinforcement of this sentiment, nothing new, really.
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we'll see the level of (justified) bitterness in the free and fair (not in the CIS terms, but rather international norms) elections in May...unless Russia invades the rest of Ukraine which seems likely.
I don't think the invasion of Eastern Ukraine ( and its inclusion in Russia) is really a Russian goal. The federalization would have served Russian interests much better. South-East of Ukraine is not Crimea.
My country has been in the German sphere of influence since declaring independence, and asymmetrically hundreds of years before that. Well, except for in the early 30's when we turned towards the UK and France. But that came to nothing, and eventually everything went fine even if we turned back to Germany.
We are still happy to be in that sphere, and the Government in Kiev would gladly follow the same path.
Russia again... who the hell would want to join that dysfunctional behemoth? Maybe some "-Stan" states that lives in yurts.
EU and U.S. are hypocrites. They stated that Russia is to blame for the destabilization of Ukraine. Russia that it destabilized the southeastern Ukraine.They said that thousands of residents of South-east is Russian turisty.lol. idiots!
Illegitimate government of Ukraine stated that the police shooting of a sniper rifle. Is this normal? they shot themselves? Said Wednesday Colonel Tristan Tsitelashvili four Georgian snipers were in the days of unrest in Ukraine "by direct order" "United National Movement" of ex-President Mikheil Saakashvili.
Right Sektor isn't being sent to Southeast Ukraine, that's nonsense. They're a paramilitary group organized in one of the poorest countries in Europe which is currently completely destabilized. You're acting as if a transitional government that can't even put down Russian provocateurs can somehow direct a far-right group that does what it pleases.
We'll see whether the majority of the population of ethnic Ukrainians wants to look towards the EU and US, or back towards an annexing power that just forcibly annexed part of the country and organized a mock referendum, committed a massive genocide, the Holodomor, on the population from 1932-1933, and clearly renegged on its 1993 agreements to not claim the Crimean peninsula in exchange for keeping its Black Sea fleet there.
Those were his words, even he regrets it, as Ukraine is never getting Crimea back. Ironically, that illegal annexation might have just reversed centuries of Russian domination and influence, we'll see the level of (justified) bitterness in the free and fair (not in the CIS terms, but rather international norms) elections in May...unless Russia invades the rest of Ukraine which seems likely.
You are a great connoisseur in Ukraine, then you at least once in his life were there? Do not talk nonsense.
It seems unreasonable to me for any peoples to want to align itself with Russia's current government.
They prefer Russia's government to Kiev's government, because these people ( from South-East of Ukraine) come across as more Russian than Russians themselves (the more I observe them.)
So I understand where they are coming from. It's about more than just "Putin" ( or current Russian government in general,) - it's about the self-protection of their cultural identity that current Kiev's government intends to destroy.
Why would anyone really want to be apart of russia? i just don't understand it. What can Putin offer that the EU cannot? Does their standard of living increase? Do they get better security and healthcare? Is there somehow more civil and human rights?
Why would anyone really want to be apart of russia? i just don't understand it. What can Putin offer that the EU cannot? Does their standard of living increase? Do they get better security and healthcare? Is there somehow more civil and human rights?
If you really want to know the answer.You need to know the ethnic composition of the country in the first place . East differs from western Ukraine . In the east there is no unlike in the west illusions with regard to the EU.Russia can offer real help instead of virtual . Only Russia is interested in the stability and prosperity of the people of Ukraine Ukraine. Russia still maintains material Ukraine. EU only promises and still not really helped any one dollar , except that they have spent billions to destabilize Ukraine.You want to know for whom the greatest benefit ? Ukraine to the United States should become a raw materials appendage . So it was the same way eastward expansion of NATO. But it did not happen, since we joined the Crimea back to Russia .
Do you think what came second U.S. destroyer in the Black Sea (which again violates the agreement with Russia)? Protect Ukraine? Any person understands that these weapons are not destroyers, they target not more. These destroyers arrived for only one reason, brought Western mercenaries to destroy the people they helped in eastern Ukraine.
The U.S. economy is bankrupt. To support the U.S. economy. U.S. should unleash a new war in other countries (who do not want to play by the rules of the United States to the detriment of the country) or revolution to overthrow the government and install a puppet government pleasing to the United States. Yanukovych did not support the Euro-integration. Therefore, the U.S. and the EU awarded Ukraine revolution, as well as in 2004, when the United States put Yushchenko to power.
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Membership. In a broader sense. Putin will grab whatever part of the Ukraine he can get. EU membership on the other hand is unlikely anytime soon. And without any reforms, the money of the EU/IMF will certainly stop flowing. The problem is, Russia is pretty broke herself
The second thing is nationalism. Us against them. Worked great in the past.
Membership. In a broader sense. Putin will grab whatever part of the Ukraine he can get. EU membership on the other hand is unlikely anytime soon. And without any reforms, the money of the EU/IMF will certainly stop flowing. The problem is, Russia is pretty broke herself
The second thing is nationalism. Us against them. Worked great in the past.
You say complete nonsense!You have to ask anyone in Russia they want in the EU. Any reasonable person would say no!
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