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he just wants to demonstrate "defiance" to perceived Western expansionism.
That makes him popular, that's also what Russian posters here want ?! Eastern Ukraine is also popular in Russia because they fight against the "Nazis", so showing some support is good for Putin.
But he doesn't really want to go against international law, against UNO,
support rebellion
Yes, there are two different issues here, or may be even three.
The defiance to "perceived Western expansionism" - that is a yes; it's odd to see Western corporations aiming for takeover of historic Russian territories,
The Ukrainian nationalism ( of the worst kind) imposed on the Eastern part of the country - those are genuine concerns of many, but Putin and his own "dance" - that's a third issue, and it's a separate concern.
XXI век станет либо веком тотального обострения смертоносного кризиса, либо же веком морального очищения и духовного выздоровления человечества.
XXI century will be a century of total acute lethal crisis or of a century of
moral and spiritual healing of humanity.
[LEFT]Его всестороннего возрождения.[/LEFT]
His full recovery.
[LEFT][/LEFT]
[LEFT]Убежден, все мы – все разумные политические силы, все духовные и
идейные течения, все конфессии – призваны содействовать этому переходу,
победе человечности и справедливости.[/LEFT]
I am sure all of us - all reasonable political leaders, all spiritual and
ideological movements, all faiths - must help in this transition to a
triumph of humanism and justice.
[LEFT]Тому, чтобы XXI век стал веком возрождения, веком Человека.[/LEFT]
Making the XXI century is the century renaissance, the age of man.
can we improve this translation ? Does Gorbachev want a world government ? Erasure ?
No gsgs, Gorbachev is not talking about the "world government" here - he is saying that the world leaders should work in unison for this transition to.. "humanism and justice" - whatever.
After all, he is a former Soviet leader and they used to make these flowery speeches.
May I ask why his statements even matter to you, since Gorbachev is irrelevant in Russia and his opinions have no weight whatsoever. If anything, people are looking down at him.
Even worse - this is the reaction on a St. George ribbon spotted in a car.
( And someone was telling stories here earlier how "safe" it is to show up in Kiev with Russian flag, comparably to demonstrating Ukrainian flag in Moscow.)
Yeah, right. Ukrainians are as intolerant as Russians, they share too much in common, so all this "I am true European and you are not" is ridiculous to say the least.
As much as Russians, Ukrainians have their "class separation" and when they insist that Russians are all about the "lower ladder" while their society consists exclusively of "cultured and tolerant people" is..hmm.. strange at least.
Fletchman, defense spending means debt increase, threat to enemies, arms race.
Better is mutual reduction and arms reduction treaties and build of trust.
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Boxus, Russia and the West seem to have similar interests wrt. radical islam.
Why not cooperate and ignore the problems with small local differences ?
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I have the feeling that Putin doesn't really understand what's going on in the West.
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wrt. Gorbachev - world leaders working unisono, that's a bit of world government.
Like EU. I don't remember flowery SU-leader speaches, more shoe-ery.
Gorbachev ended cold war, allowed German reunification, he has his books.
He was widely quoted, Russians look down to him presumably because he was
bad or unlucky with the economy. What's Putin's concept for the longterm
world future ? Global warming, bioterrorism, robotics, many states with nukes ?
Boxus, Russia and the West seem to have similar interests wrt. radical islam.
Why not cooperate and ignore the problems with small local differences ?
Different objectives; their similar interest starts and ends with stability, but the US policy is heavily influenced by the likes of Israel and Saudi Arabia, while Russia is immune to the influences. The Saudi influence has done nothing but screwed the whole place up as the Saudi regime is a very radical, Islamic state with a goal of spreading its radicalized Islam across all of the Middle East, using the US to do it. The Saudi's along with most other Sunni states have a long standing goal of removing Shiites from any influence in the region, and using the US to do it.
The above is the big difference between the US and Russia in the Middle East; Russia just wants to stop radical Islam, the US does not want to stop it, just control it.
gsgs, that's what a lot of Russians are wondering about, when you read FB and other sources.
What it looks like to me, isthat there is a lot of bargaining is going on behind the scene, that's why the *possible solutions* are changing by the hour.
Which doesn't sit well neither with Russian public, not with DNR people for the most part.
From my favorite Russian journalist, Dmitryi Olshansky;
"In times like these, the gap between the interests of Russia and the interests of closely held corporation "Russia" where shareholding belongs to only few, is quite visible.
Russia needs land, people, cities, villages, agriculture, Russian language, heroic DNR fighters... the list is endless.
Closely held corporation "Russia" needs few businesses that give possibility to make money - a lot of them, here and now, good relations with EU ( a place to keep profits) and minimum of NATO presence, in order to run the minimal risk of losing profitable business.
It's obvious that closely held corporation "Russia" is million times stronger that Russia.
However history, life and and fate operate in such way, that sometimes this advantage doesn't help.
... Russia just wants to stop radical Islam, ... .
Agreed. We must understand one simple thing: the main threat to the World is a global offensive of radical Islam against Christianity. This danger is even more likely in the background of the problems with Ukraine, organized and implemented by the United States under the desire to dictate its conditions to the World. Christian World has to be together to solve this global problem.
Agreed. We must understand one simple thing: the main threat to the World is a global offensive of radical Islam against Christianity. This danger is even more likely in the background of the problems with Ukraine, organized and implemented by the United States under the desire to dictate its conditions to the World. Christian World has to be together to solve this global problem.
"Christian world" was not "together" starting from the "Great Schism."
Basically same can be said about Islam.
So neither conglomerate can be united as a single front - neither Christianity, not Islam, as much as they try.
"Christian world" was not "together" starting from the "Great Schism."...
Yes, it's understandable. The question is that it is time to unite the efforts of Christianity to confront radical Islam. The difficulty is that the United States "muddies the waters" in these difficult global conditions.
Yes, it's understandable. The question is that it is time to unite the efforts of Christianity to confront radical Islam. The difficulty is that the United States "muddies the waters" in these difficult global conditions.
The inconvenient truth is, I'm afraid, that you can't confront "radical Islam" without confronting Islam period. And that means the heart of it, the Central Mecca, a country for which Koran serves as a constitution. And even so, even destroying something as physical (hypothetically speaking,) will you be really able to destroy SPIRITUAL part of Islam, which is spread far and wide around the world, in hearts and minds of billions of muslims?
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