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Originally Posted by euro123
If I tell you earth is flat then what?
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Then you would imply that I am making things up, but I don't.
I probably simply know more on a subject.
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Putin's words were that for 8 years all their attempts have failed, well can't you just assassinate the politicians and install the ones who will run an unbiased referendum to decide the fate of Crimea and others since even UN polling agrees they wanted independence? It's not easy but a better option...
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Whaaa???
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It's one thing to kill an Ukrainian politician who is willingly committing crimes in Donbas, completely different to bomb the whole country...
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There was a much bigger problem than just "one politician committing crimes in Donbass," and that's what I observed within the last seven years, but first - why I even got into "Ukrainian affairs" in the first place.
Basically, you can blame Ruth for Truth for that, now that I think about it ...
She was the one that mentioned the
"Yabloko" party in Russia, and since I was familiar with them, I went to check on how they were doing, since according to my background that's the party I would have normally affiliate myself if still residing in Moscow.
So I found their forum and all, discussed some of their leader's articles/interview here on PBS, and shortly after that this Maidan in Kiev happened.
I watched it ( along with all Americans) and had a vague idea what the political/economic background of Ukraine was at that point, since as I already mentioned I had no particular interest in the area.
The Yabloko people were cheering the event, but I've noticed something troubling there, while watching Ukrainian events on Youtube.
Once I saw some young guy entering some bank, and right after he came out, a gang of other youth came up to him, pulled his jacked off, threw it on the ground and spray-painted it. ( It was a nice red jacket I remember, and being a mother of a kid of this age myself, I was going like...
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Then they talked to him ( as it turned out they were "teaching him a lesson of not using the Russian banks ever,") and left, while he was just standing there, looking at his jacket.
What the hell I thought to myself, what's going on and who these youngsters think they are?
And that's when for the first time I've learned about Ukrainian nationalists, the "Right Sector" and so on.
So I pointed at that at my Yabloko forum, that THIS can't be a good thing, and after few arguments back and forth, my democratic party banned me.
But from that point on I was already hooked, looking into Ukrainian events, and step by step knowing NOTHING about that country ( after it was separated from Russia for 30 years,) I became totally fascinated by it in political/cultural scene.
I was watching their bloggers, their politicians, their TV programs ( Zelensky's show including, used to love it BTW,) I followed the events in Donbass ( Eastern Ukraine actually) from their perspective ( and the Russian one,) talked to people who were involved with all kinds of help there, talked to Eastern Ukrainians themselves, and on and on.
So you get the idea.
While I found Russian political field to be pretty sanitized and boring, Ukraine was actually extremely interesting place in this respect, and Eastern Ukrainians were coming across as more Russians than the Russians from the "Russia proper" ( I am talking first of all the Moscovites of course.)
So all THIS might give a better idea to you now why I always have an answers to the questions often posed here, because now when I think about it, Ukraine was something I was observing closely these last seven-eight years, inside and out.
My detailed knowledge of it is actually better than of "Russia proper" that shouldn't be a case, but it is.