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Old 06-15-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: USA
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I agree. I hope Jeff takes this to heart.
I think Jeff definitely has it in him, Ronkon.
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:50 PM
 
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I have a friend that was in that club and died. My sister knows two of the men killed. I still can not locate another friend that may have been there. And you are trying to make yourselves look holy with your concern. Yeah, you can take that faux concern and shove it, because we all know that next week you will be back to your old nasty tune.
I don't have anything helpful to say but I'm very sorry for your loss jj.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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I'm sorry, but the very same people that have been fighting against me having equal rights now want to cry and offer condolences? No. It comes off as fake and shallow. You who call us deviant, immoral, sick, evil, disgusting and worse have no right to now pull out the fake tears and concern over the death of those that just last week you were vilifying.

You can not treat me and my brothers and sisters as less than then turn around and feign support when we are slaughtered.

I have a friend that was in that club and died. My sister knows two of the men killed. I still can not locate another friend that may have been there. And you are trying to make yourselves look holy with your concern. Yeah, you can take that faux concern and shove it, because we all know that next week you will be back to your old nasty tune.
So sorry for your losses jjrose. My thoughts are with you all. It's hard to comprehend such sadness.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:35 PM
 
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Well, I think more would now be appropriate. "I'm sorry for your loss AND for the hurtful way in which I responded to you at such a difficult time."
But she already said that she rejects any sympathy from my camp. That was her initial post. So it really doesn't matter what I post, now does it?
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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But she already said that she rejects any sympathy from my camp. That was her initial post. So it really doesn't matter what I post, now does it?
Yes. It matters. This is not about you.

I cannot express how disappointed I am in you, Jeff. This actually hurts.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:45 PM
 
Location: USA
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But she already said that she rejects any sympathy from my camp. That was her initial post. So it really doesn't matter what I post, now does it?

It matters very much what you do in this moment. You've got an opportunity here to do the good and compassionate thing, no matter how you think anyone will receive it. I really do believe you know this Jeff.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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It matters very much what you do in this moment. You've got an opportunity here to do the good and compassionate thing, no matter how you think anyone will receive it. I really do believe you know this Jeff.
Jeff also has the opportunity to demonstrate the grace of his god as well as Jeff's own personal character.

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Old 06-15-2016, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I'm sorry, but the very same people that have been fighting against me having equal rights now want to cry and offer condolences? No. It comes off as fake and shallow. You who call us deviant, immoral, sick, evil, disgusting and worse have no right to now pull out the fake tears and concern over the death of those that just last week you were vilifying.

You can not treat me and my brothers and sisters as less than then turn around and feign support when we are slaughtered.

I have a friend that was in that club and died. My sister knows two of the men killed. I still can not locate another friend that may have been there. And you are trying to make yourselves look holy with your concern. Yeah, you can take that faux concern and shove it, because we all know that next week you will be back to your old nasty tune.
I have lost several friends and loved ones over the years, including a wife, to disease and accidents ... but I can't claim to know what it's like to lose them in such a horrific act of violence, which can only add massive feelings of violation on top of the grief and pain. All I can offer is that while it never seems remotely possible at first that you can process or heal from such things, eventually one manages to do both. I am truly sorry for your losses and those of your community.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I think Beck is making a transition from the extreme positions he used to take. He is vehemently anti-Trump, and every once in a while he comes up with a reasonable perspective. I wonder how it affects his income, as he was as used to feeding raw meat to the lions as Limbaugh is.
Well, as they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day. I seriously have no use whatsoever for Glenn Beck, and it embarrasses me to death that he's the same religion as I am. Still, I'm glad he didn't make some, "Well, they deserved what they got!" comment. Pretty much all Mormons are vehemently anti-Trump, so to hear that he is, too, doesn't really surprise me.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Yes. It matters. This is not about you.

I cannot express how disappointed I am in you, Jeff. This actually hurts.
And yet you defended people here who called me a waste of oxygen which truly is the most despicable comment I've seen here . Why should I expect an expression of disappointment when you have such low regard for me in the first place?


With that said, it is not my desire to hurt people so out of respect, I will refrain from posting here for the next few days.
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