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Old 02-08-2019, 09:40 PM
 
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I am wondering if you believe my answer in some way skirted the issue, was inaccurate or misleading. For some reason, you seem to feel as if you have to follow up on every response I make and restate everything in your own words, as if I am not fully capable of providing those who ask with correct information on LDS doctrine.
Of course you are fully capable of stating your opinion, as I am. I disagree that Doctrine teaches that those who reject Baptism in this life AND the next go to the terrestrial kingdom.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Of course you are fully capable of stating your opinion, as I am. I disagree that Doctrine teaches that those who reject Baptism in this life AND the next go to the terrestrial kingdom.
That's right. We believe that if a person who is not baptized by someone holding proper authority in this life and who also rejects a proxy baptism done on his behalf will go to the Terrestrial Kingdom. You initially stated, "Those who do not get Baptized on earth but do after death go to the Terrestrial Kingdom."

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Old 02-08-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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This is not my opinion. I know what LDS doctrine is and you obviously don't.
You say that to everyone who doesn't agree with every word you type as if you are the ultimate authority on LDS Doctrine and Scripture, which you are not.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I didn't criticize anything. I merely said one reason Mormons have lots of children. And your specific question was how that differs from the Bible. The Bible does not damn us for failing to be vessels for spirits to come and have their earthly experience, that is paramount to their eternal progression.
No. Stop telling me what my point was.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Those who do not get Baptized on earth but do after death go to the Terrestrial Kingdom.
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You say that to everyone who doesn't agree with every word you type as if you are the ultimate authority on LDS Doctrine and Scripture, which you are not.
I'm a far greater authority on it than you are. Any third-grader can google something, sort through the results of their search and pick the information that suits them. I have been a practicing Latter-day Saint for 70 years. Give me a break!

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Old 02-08-2019, 09:51 PM
 
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No. Stop telling me what my point was.
This is what you asked:

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How is that worse than much in the "regular" christian bible?
And I answered. Although I declined to use the word 'worse than' and used 'different than' because I never said anything about better or worse. I never compared it to the Bible to start with. You did. I was discussing one reason why Mormons have so many children. They were taught they had to, for the sake of all the spirits that needed to come get a chance to be born and live as a human to advance their progression to Godhood.

It was said to be a wicked, so wicked as to deserve damnation to curtail the number of children.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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this is what you asked:



And i answered. Although i declined to use the word 'worse than' and used 'different than' because i never said anything about better or worse. I never compared it to the bible to start with. You did. I was discussing one reason why mormons have so many children. They were taught they had to, for the sake of all the spirits that needed to come get a chance to be born and live as a human to advance their progression to godhood.

It was said to be a wicked, so wicked as to deserve damnation to curtail the number of children.
jencam...you missed the point of my post. Period.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:00 PM
 
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jencam...you missed the point of my post. Period.
I understood it perfectly. The issue is you are incorrect. You were implying that I was saying there is something wrong with that belief. When in fact all I was doing was explaining it placing no negative or positive value on it.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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I'm a far greater authority on it than you are. Any third-grader can google something, sort through the results of their search and pick the information that suits them. I have been a practicing Latter-day Saint for 70 years. Give me a break!
I'll go ahead and lock this version of your post in before you edit it again. The addition of the 'third grader' remark is such a gem. No matter how civil I am you insist on being insulting.

I am doing no such thing. Googling and choosing parts that 'suit me'. I began learning about Mormonism in High school when I dated a Mormon.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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I'll go ahead and lock this version of your post in before you edit it again. The addition of the third grader remark is such a gem. I am doing no such thing. Googling and choosing parts that 'suit me'. I began learning about Mormonism in High school when I dated a Mormon.
Oh dear! Nobody told me that editing was against the rules! Knock yourself out, baby. My statement stands and I don't intend to edit it. Night, night. I'm off to bed. See you tomorrow.
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