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Old 03-30-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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If you're too stupid to neglect birth control or not have any sense of judgement, rhyme or reason, then you are the one who shouldn't be in this world.
That is a fascinating statement. I wonder if, given what we know about evolution, and what many speculate about the will of the creator, if people making such decisions about abortion are not part of the fabric of what one poster on another thread calls "inevitable."
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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That is a fascinating statement. I wonder if, given what we know about evolution, and what many speculate about the will of the creator, if people making such decisions about abortion are not part of the fabric of what one poster on another thread calls "inevitable."
For what it's worth, with over 900,000 documented miscarriages and stillbirths in this country every year, and probably millions more undocumented cases of fertilized eggs simply failing to implant, it's probably a safe bet that the creator is the universe's most enthusiastic abortion provider. Incidentally, I guess if abortions are criminalized as "murder", then every miscarriage should result in a homicide investigation? Actually, one Virginia legislator tried to have a law like that passed.
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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For what it's worth, with over 900,000 documented miscarriages and stillbirths in this country every year, and probably millions more undocumented cases of fertilized eggs simply failing to implant, it's probably a safe bet that the creator is the universe's most enthusiastic abortion provider. Incidentally, I guess if abortions are criminalized as "murder", then every miscarriage should result in a homicide investigation? Actually, one Virginia legislator tried to have a law like that passed.
That's one way to look at it, though not the one I would choose.

Take it further and think of the number of adult deaths. By that measure, there's a whole lot of blood on the creator's hands. Why, it's a safe bet to say that darned near everyone dies.

Having been born...
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:51 PM
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Location: Texas
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I think it's entirely incongruous to argue that God's control of life and death or even the processes of nature, if you want to view it that way, is the equivalent of man's taking it into his own hands to deliberately end a life.
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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I think it's entirely incongruous to argue that God's control of life and death or even the processes of nature, if you want to view it that way, is the equivalent of man's taking it into his own hands to deliberately end a life.
Humans shouldn't control who lives or dies. That is why I am against abortion. It is also the same reason I am against the death penalty, but that's another topic altogether. Just the same, I still feel that abortion is murder.
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Old 03-30-2009, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Humans shouldn't control who lives or dies. That is why I am against abortion. It is also the same reason I am against the death penalty, but that's another topic altogether. Just the same, I still feel that abortion is murder.
Yes I am against capital punishment as well (though largely for different reasons). Pro-life, anti-death penalty.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:41 PM
 
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It seems like a lot people are trying to argue whether abortion is right or wrong, rather than if it should be legalized or not. Its a big mistake a lot of people make when arguing politics. An example I like to use is if we voted on if racist writings should be allowed to be published or not, of course everyone would vote it out immediately, but that doesn't mean thats the just and right decision. Same thing with abortion, people don't look at the big picture of an entire country having to follow these laws, rather they look at a single instance in whether abortion would be right or wrong.
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:45 PM
 
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Humans shouldn't control who lives or dies. That is why I am against abortion. It is also the same reason I am against the death penalty, but that's another topic altogether. Just the same, I still feel that abortion is murder.
How about military service involving killing the enemy?
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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How about military service involving killing the enemy?
are you seriously comparing abortion to war??
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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How about military service involving killing the enemy?
War is necessary in some circumstances. The death penalty is not. Abortion may be in some cases, but it needs to be used only in cases of necessity.
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