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Type A hepatitis is not easily spread by food workers. Salmonella is much more common. And either disease has much more to do with restaurant techniques and procedures than employee health. Las Vegas, which likely has more restaurants per person than any other American city has had two major incidents in the last 25 years. The latest got over 100 people and involved improper refrigeration.
Las Vegas local restaurants are very likely to have illegals in the kitchen. Very unlikely on the strip or Downtown.
type A hep, is spread by people using the bathroom and not washing their hands afterwards...
unless I'm wrong....
Problem is, illegals are working in almost every restaurant, regardless.....the owners pay them very little to work for them and pays them with cash.
type A hep, is spread by people using the bathroom and not washing their hands afterwards...
unless I'm wrong....
Problem is, illegals are working in almost every restaurant, regardless.....the owners pay them very little to work for them and pays them with cash.
The issue is whether or not they food handle and how. Gloves are probably the most important part of that.
With property procedures a hepatitis infected worker is not a problem. With bad protocol it can happen. It would take an amazing amount of bad luck for an illegal carrying hepatitis to cross the border, find a job before the symptoms appear and manage to infect some suitable food.
The argument against illegals has to be almost entirely economic. Disease and crime just won't cut it.
And one cure for the economic is simply make them all legal...where upon they will want to be paid like anyone else. Capitalism it is called.
The issue is whether or not they food handle and how. Gloves are probably the most important part of that.
With property procedures a hepatitis infected worker is not a problem. With bad protocol it can happen. It would take an amazing amount of bad luck for an illegal carrying hepatitis to cross the border, find a job before the symptoms appear and manage to infect some suitable food.
The argument against illegals has to be almost entirely economic. Disease and crime just won't cut it.
And one cure for the economic is simply make them all legal...where upon they will want to be paid like anyone else. Capitalism it is called.
Another cure is to allow cops to arrest an illegal alien just for being here illegally AND have the judges back up that cop. MOST will take the hint and leave the US real fast.
Illegal immigration is about economics, the possibility of carrying disease (since they get no health checks before entry) and they do increase our crime rates. Any one in denial of this isn't dealing in reality. Making them legal won't cure anything. They will be able to retain the jobs that Americans need and will still be a net negative tax burden. It will also just encourage more illegal immigration. Again, capitalism does not negate our immigration laws and no one should be rewarded for breaking them.
Another cure is to allow cops to arrest an illegal alien just for being here illegally AND have the judges back up that cop. MOST will take the hint and leave the US real fast.
We can't or won't afford it. Would have likely been the correct solution in 1988 or 1989. Now the job is simply to large to be done rationally. Cost few hundred billion and take ten years including some large social stability problems.
And every year that passes the problem gets worse. Eventually we will catch another wave of illegals and end up with 15 million because we refuse to deal with the existing problem
Illegal immigration is about economics, the possibility of carrying disease (since they get no health checks before entry) and they do increase our crime rates. Any one in denial of this isn't dealing in reality. Making them legal won't cure anything. They will be able to retain the jobs that Americans need and will still be a net negative tax burden. It will also just encourage more illegal immigration. Again, capitalism does not negate our immigration laws and no one should be rewarded for breaking them.
Nonsense repeated often is still nonsense. The Mexican illness rates are not significantly different from the lower end of the US socioeconomic structure. And the much larger problem of carrying disease into the US would be tourists. But in fact it is not a problem.
The crime rates in the US have gone done consistently throughout the period of the illegal influx. And that is true of the states and cities with large illegal populations including my own Las Vegas. We are very close to the highest illegal population per capita in the US yet our crime rate has been going down for decades.
The OP is insinuating that all illegals have diseases. Did the Op check to see if anyone of them was sick. NO! Instead they should be worrying about the customers some of them might be tourists that get here without any screening what so ever. I see too many time on these political boards where they call illegals all sorts of disease carriers and some of these people are more healthier than you or me. It's just fear mongering and it needs to stop. Had the OP said that restaurants hiring illegals and hardly no one knows about it then I would understand that. NOT EVERYONE ILLEGAL IS SICK! especially after being here for a while. Locals have Hep diseases also!
Also OldGlory, while they maybe taking jobs that Americans need there are many, many jobs in America that Americans would rather sit on their couches than do. There are farmers right now looking for workers, a lot of illegals do those but they still need more and they are paying very well but no takers. Fill those jobs before you use that argument.
The OP is insinuating that all illegals have diseases. Did the Op check to see if anyone of them was sick. NO! Instead they should be worrying about the customers some of them might be tourists that get here without any screening what so ever. I see too many time on these political boards where they call illegals all sorts of disease carriers and some of these people are more healthier than you or me. It's just fear mongering and it needs to stop. Had the OP said that restaurants hiring illegals and hardly no one knows about it then I would understand that. NOT EVERYONE ILLEGAL IS SICK! especially after being here for a while. Locals have Hep diseases also!
Also OldGlory, while they maybe taking jobs that Americans need there are many, many jobs in America that Americans would rather sit on their couches than do. There are farmers right now looking for workers, a lot of illegals do those but they still need more and they are paying very well but no takers. Fill those jobs before you use that argument.
Good grief! No one said that all illegals are sick. What people are saying is that they didn't go through health screenings the way legal immigrants are required to do. So, some tourists might be sick, and your point is what exactly? Those tourists are here visiting---not working in restaurants and handling food.
As for farmers---if they need workers, there is an agricultural worker visa that has no caps on it so there is no excuse for farmers to not use it. They have no business refusing to use this visa and instead opting for cheap, exploitable, illegal labor.
Plus, think about this --- there are many people who are unemployed that live in urban areas. How are they going to get to the farms? Many don't own cars or the cars they do have are not that reliable to be making daily trips of 2 hours or more each day. Then you factor in the cost of fuel and vehicle maintenance.
Perhaps you can volunteer your time and your vehicle to drive people to the farms.
The OP is insinuating that all illegals have diseases. Did the Op check to see if anyone of them was sick. NO! Instead they should be worrying about the customers some of them might be tourists that get here without any screening what so ever. I see too many time on these political boards where they call illegals all sorts of disease carriers and some of these people are more healthier than you or me. It's just fear mongering and it needs to stop. Had the OP said that restaurants hiring illegals and hardly no one knows about it then I would understand that. NOT EVERYONE ILLEGAL IS SICK! especially after being here for a while. Locals have Hep diseases also!
Also OldGlory, while they maybe taking jobs that Americans need there are many, many jobs in America that Americans would rather sit on their couches than do. There are farmers right now looking for workers, a lot of illegals do those but they still need more and they are paying very well but no takers. Fill those jobs before you use that argument.
As I already pointed out to you and so did another poster there are the H-2A visas for unlimited, legal, foreign ag workers and yet you persist. Of course most Americans won't do farm work. That isn't a career job.
I don't recall the OP stating that "all" illegal aliens are carrying deseases but there is a strong possibility that some do because they come here without health checks and many do work in the food industry. Tourists are not working in our kitchens. That's not fear mongering it is just a fact.
Just what are these jobs that "most" Americans won't do and would rather sit on a couch?
As I already pointed out to you and so did another poster there are the H-2A visas for unlimited, legal, foreign ag workers and yet you persist. Of course most Americans won't do farm work. That isn't a career job.
I don't recall the OP stating that "all" illegal aliens are carrying deseases but there is a strong possibility that some do because they come here without health checks and many do work in the food industry. Tourists are not working in our kitchens. That's not fear mongering it is just a fact.
Just what are these jobs that "most" Americans won't do and would rather sit on a couch?
The Visa system works in some places but mostly not. It requires intermediates who get a cut and can require commitments and risk that farmers are not willing to take. And it is often the case that farmers have well established crews that they have employed for years and whom they are not willing to displace. We could of course simply allow agricultural workers to receive one year visas renewable and stop a lot of the illegals. But we don't.
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