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Old 08-10-2019, 11:34 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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California is probably the most naturally beautiful state our country has to offer. Shame what the left has done to it.
I know this is only opinion here, but Hawaii wins.
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I don’t know why things changed on the link you posted, that’s out of my purview. The point stands though, the last six (continuing) years have been under full Republican leadership, and things look exactly the same to me, and I’ve been there this year. You can’t give the Republicans a pass on how things are while towing the “bad Democrats” line, I know you want to, but to do so would be extremely disingenuous.
I don't think Republicans are in general blaming Democrats for poverty and poor performance in schools and violent crimes.

What happens is liberal partisans like yourself start bashing red states and talk about bad stats in these states (even though the high crime poor areas with 'bad' schools in the south are majority Democrat voting) as though Republican policy created it.

So we then talk about blue states and look at the problems there and you guys say that's not fair.

You guys say leftwing policy leads to utopia and we know that isn't true.

If far left hacks say Trump and Republicans are racists, then it makes sense to consider if Democrat controlled areas have a lot of minority voters struggling.

There are a lot of rich people in California, but there are also tons of poor people. A lot of the rich people in California did not grow up there.

I know two engineers who grew up in my small town in SC who get paid a lot of money in California now. If our schools are relatively terrible, how would this be possible.

If Democrats had 2 or all 3 branches of the state government in Miss for 100 plus years, hard to blame Republicans for the state now and I think Miss is more affluent now then it was when Democrats ran it.

I don't think you can prove it got worse under GOP control.

I don't think you can deny that the left routinely beats up on the south.

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Old 08-10-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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According to Wikipedia's info,

Democrats controlled both the WV state congress and senate from 1933 until 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi..._West_Virginia

Right now WV has either its lowest unemployment rate or one of its lowest.

Does anybody sincerely believe WV is worse now than in the past when Democrats controlled it.

From 2000 to 2017, it had a Democrat governor. It only has a Republican governor now b/c Jim Justice switched parties which is only b/c the Democrat party has shifted from a working class party to something else.

If your party is anti-gun, anti- coal and fracking, etc, that's not gonna play in WV.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:11 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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I don't think Republicans are in general blaming Democrats for poverty and poor performance in schools and violent crimes.

What happens is liberal partisans like yourself start bashing red states and talk about bad stats in these states (even though the high crime poor areas with 'bad' schools in the south are majority Democrat voting) as though Republican policy created it.

So we then talk about blue states and look at the problems there and you guys say that's not fair.

You guys say leftwing policy leads to utopia and we know that isn't true.

If far left hacks say Trump and Republicans are racists, then it makes sense to consider if Democrat controlled areas have a lot of minority voters struggling.

There are a lot of rich people in California, but there are also tons of poor people. A lot of the rich people in California did not grow up there.

I know two engineers who grew up in my small town in SC who get paid a lot of money in California now. If our schools are relatively terrible, how would this be possible.

If Democrats had 2 or all 3 branches of the state government in Miss for 100 plus years, hard to blame Republicans for the state now and I think Miss is more affluent now then it was when Democrats ran it.

I don't think you can prove it got worse under GOP control.

I don't think you can deny that the left routinely beats up on the south.
I only bash red states when these type of posts bashing CA pop up, it’s ok to bash CA but when someone in CA bashes back, uh oh! The posts in this thread are a perfect example of that. You can’t complain about return fire, if you don’t like it or can’t handle it, don’t start up in the first place. I know, I know, none of Mississippi’s problems can be blamed on Republicans, yadda, yadda, Republicans are totally blameless, lol, what a shock.
I didn’t say things got worse under GOP control, I said things are the same, which, you know, is surprising since they’ve been in control the majority of the time.
I don’t think you can deny the right loves to go after CA, so here we are. If you want to bring up California’s bad points and conveniently forget your own, I will certainly remind you.

“liberal partisan”, lol, I like that.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I only bash red states when these type of posts bashing CA pop up, it’s ok to bash CA but when someone in CA bashes back, uh oh! The posts in this thread are a perfect example of that. You can’t complain about return fire, if you don’t like it or can’t handle it, don’t start up in the first place. I know, I know, none of Mississippi’s problems can be blamed on Republicans, yadda, yadda, Republicans are totally blameless, lol, what a shock.
I didn’t say things got worse under GOP control, I said things are the same, which, you know, is surprising since they’ve been in control the majority of the time.
I don’t think you can deny the right loves to go after CA, so here we are. If you want to bring up California’s bad points and conveniently forget your own, I will certainly remind you.

“liberal partisan”, lol, I like that.
To be fair, California makes it easy.

The state is a prime example of why most conservatives don’t want to see big government get bigger. The state itself is beautiful, and there are some areas which are still moderately “normal”. The major population centers, on the other hand, are a dumpster fire next to a gas station.

By the way, I’m not a conservative except in the constitutional sense. That whole constitutional conservative thing, though, is why I view California with skepticism. Not sure why y’all have such a hard time electing politicians that know their elbow from their *******, but there it is.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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To be fair, California makes it easy.

The state is a prime example of why most conservatives don’t want to see big government get bigger. The state itself is beautiful, and there are some areas which are still moderately “normal”. The major population centers, on the other hand, are a dumpster fire next to a gas station.

By the way, I’m not a conservative except in the constitutional sense. That whole constitutional conservative thing, though, is why I view California with skepticism. Not sure why y’all have such a hard time electing politicians that know their elbow from their *******, but there it is.
So have you actually been to California and saw feces and shot needles on the sidewalks?

Speaking of making big government bigger, Republicans in Oklahoma City are trying to figure out new government projects, such as a new multipurpose stadium, to justify keeping the city sales tax up.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I only bash red states when these type of posts bashing CA pop up, it’s ok to bash CA but when someone in CA bashes back, uh oh! The posts in this thread are a perfect example of that. You can’t complain about return fire, if you don’t like it or can’t handle it, don’t start up in the first place. I know, I know, none of Mississippi’s problems can be blamed on Republicans, yadda, yadda, Republicans are totally blameless, lol, what a shock.
I didn’t say things got worse under GOP control, I said things are the same, which, you know, is surprising since they’ve been in control the majority of the time.
I don’t think you can deny the right loves to go after CA, so here we are. If you want to bring up California’s bad points and conveniently forget your own, I will certainly remind you.

“liberal partisan”, lol, I like that.
I'm pointing out the fact that southern states were controlled by Democrats until recently which you didn't even know. This takes away from your 'return fire'.

Trump brought up problems in California b/c the governor bashed him. That's what Trump does if you bash him.

The scandalous DJT did not randomly start talking about California.

Open border Republicans in Miss aren't helping the poverty issue in Miss but Democrats are also open borders. Flooding this country with more poor people and drugs isn't exactly helping fix problems. I don't see any reason to believe Democrat's open borders policy has helped California and it has made it worse.

a big reason red states have been able to attract companies is right to work laws with prohibits union membership from being required to get a job in the state. Democrats typically oppose right to work laws, and the Obama admin even tried to stop Boeing from opening up a plant in South Carolina because of this.

I also don't think jacking up taxes would help the state lure business and people. who wants to jack up taxes.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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To be fair, California makes it easy.

The state is a prime example of why most conservatives don’t want to see big government get bigger. The state itself is beautiful, and there are some areas which are still moderately “normal”. The major population centers, on the other hand, are a dumpster fire next to a gas station.

By the way, I’m not a conservative except in the constitutional sense. That whole constitutional conservative thing, though, is why I view California with skepticism. Not sure why y’all have such a hard time electing politicians that know their elbow from their *******, but there it is.
California does make it easy, but CA is not alone in that uncomfortable room. In terms of their politics, yeah, it could most certainly be better and the courts are not helping, but with that, there are positives here as well and with that, what some posters here forget to realize or acknowledge while crapping on CA, a large number of conservatives too.
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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I'm pointing out the fact that southern states were controlled by Democrats until recently which you didn't even know. This takes away from your 'return fire'.

Trump brought up problems in California b/c the governor bashed him. That's what Trump does if you bash him.

The scandalous DJT did not randomly start talking about California.
Whoa there, prove I did not know this, point it out for me, thanks in advance.

and in terms of the rest of your post, I was referring to the OP and posts following therein, how did you miss this after I pointed it out? How?

-Liberal Partisan
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Old 08-10-2019, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Are you saying you are not a liberal?
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