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California vs Hawaii - lived here for two decades. Even though it has lost a lot of what made it unique (thanks to the cost), it’s still the most diverse (climate and otherwise) state in the country with great food and weather.
New York vs Colorado - the whole state, not just the city. College towns like Utica and legacy cities like Buffalo/Rochester are appealing, and I feel like the isolation of living in the Mountain region would get old.
Texas vs Michigan - family in from here, and I prefer colder weather over hot. Nothing really appeals to me about Texas quite honestly, though I hear you can get some good Vietnamese food in Houston
Florida vs Oregon - beaches are nice, obviously, but I don’t find much appealing outside Miami and Key West. I’d prefer the mountains of Oregon and communities like Bend & Ashland over the sprawling gated communities of Florida.
Wait Seriously??? I agree with you about Hollywood, but saying that Hollywood is the only reason why CA gets a lot of love is absolutely wrong, in fact I highly doubt that Hollywood is even the big reason as to why CA is very popular. California has so much in many ways. Almost all the theme parks you mention in Florida also have branches in California as well. Its true, Disneyland is nothing like Disney World, but it is still Disney, and there is also SeaWorld in San Diego and Universal outside of LA. Have you ever been Santa Barbara? It is one of the most beautiful places in the whole country with such a STUNNING coast line. Ventura is also a moderate-upscale pretty town just on the coast of Southern California. What about Los Angeles, the city in general. OMG, it has so much history, nightlife, and scenery. What about San Diego? What about San Francisco and the Bay Area? I myself am NOT a fan of San Francisco specifically but many surrounding areas like San Jose, South San Francisco, Los Altos, Palo Alto, Mountain View, Fremont, Union City, etc are very beautiful and scenic around the bay. What about the dry desert in Palm Springs and Twentynine Palms? I CANNOT believe how one could thing that Hollywood is the only reason that California gets a lot of love.
Umm, really? Upstate New York is extremely beautiful. The Hudson River line especially going up to the Hudson Gorge has stunning views. Have you been to Niagara Falls? Have you seen the great cities of Syracuse and Rochester?
I meant Hollywood DEPICTION of California, not just LA. Hollywood stereotypes places and shapes people’s perspectives of them. It frequently paints Texas as redneck, where people even in Austin or Dallas speak in huge drawls and wear cowboy as they hate minorities and gay people. That’s ridiculous. Hollywood sucks.
I stand by what I said. California cities are disgusting. LA is a dump. Nasty city. San Francisco is also absolutely filthy. California’s only redeeming quality among large cities is San Diego, but it’s also got a huge homeless, methhead culture. The whole state is filled with lunatics who’s started the movement of deciding your gender. Crazy. The level of “tolerance” there and its vilification of anyone who doesn’t believe that ideology makes me hate it there. Why does my daughter have to run track against a bigger, faster, stronger boy just because he chooses to identify as a girl? I’m rambling but the point is, California sucks.
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California vs Hawaii - Love both, but just remembering how good Hawaii made me feel unlike any other place and all the things I got to do for the first time while I was there. I can't say I was thinking about politics in either state while there, too busy enjoying myself. Hawaii, I loved the food, the people, the music & culture, the warm pacific surf, snorkeling, waterfalls pools, would go back in a heartbeat. So, yeah I'm that guy that keeps voting for it. I love Hawaii.
New York vs Colorado - Again, for memories that stand out more me it's Colorado. Best skiing ever at Telluride, love the Million Dollar Highway, summiting a 14'er in the Rockies, and my best friend lives in Denver. NY is great and a bit underrated in Upstate for what it offers, but Colorado is one of my favorites.
Texas vs Michigan - I've not been to Michigan, but the people and the food in Texas have won me over when visiting.
Florida vs Oregon - Idk, I'm just not that into Florida. I love the Oregon coast, Mt Hood, Crater Lake, and some of the waterfalls that you can hike into in Oregon. I always liked Portland, but I don't like what it's becoming lately. Still Oregon is my preference.
California vs Hawaii. Hawaii is gorgeous. Honolulu and Oahu, plus Maui are absolutely gorgeous. San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles and Sacramento are places I hope to see someday, but Hawaii wins this.
New York vs Colorado. New York City was a fun trip for me back in 2012. Albany, Sleepy Hollow and Niagara Falls are on my bucket list. Denver looks lovely and the Colorado scenery is breathtaking. But Upstate New York is gorgeous and closer to home.
Texas vs Michigan. A toss up. I really don't have a favorite between the two. I'll choose warmer weather. San Antonio looks like a fun city to visit. Mackinac Island in Michigan also looks picturesque.
Florida vs Oregon. Florida is one of my favorite states. I have been there more than a handful of times. I love Miami, Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale and Key West. I would love to see St. Augustine, St. Petersburg and Tampa. I am not really into Portland, Oregon. I will say Eastern Oregon looks pretty though.
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California: Its influence on the world and its varied scenery beat out a very scenic Hawaii.
Colorado: A toss up but I am going with Colorado here by a very slim margin. NYC is a world class city and upstate is more scenic and interesting than a lot of people give it credit for, but the Rocky Mountains of Colorado are magical and the Front-Range metros serve as a proper gateway to that scenery.
Michigan This is another toss up The UP is nice and is a future road trip. I probably like that Michigan has snowy winters and more of a 4-season climate than most of Texas (outside of the Panhandle) which is just enough to put it over the edge.
Oregon: Florida has the beach, Disney, some nice scenery if you like caves/springs and such, and a bunch of history. Florida is also a warm-weather lovers paradise and is a melting pot. Oregon though has the Cascades and the Oregon coast. I think the Pacific NW is one of most scenic areas in this country. I would likely like Portland and Eugene over the FL cities so Oregon gets the vote.
Not sure what your point was. SD is underpopulated, unpolluted, and under-taxed - and there's minimal crime. I've lived in 15 different states (including current tournament contenders NY, CA, and TX), and chose SD for retirement for the above reasons. I own a large forested acreage with 2 houses on it that I bought for cash, for a price that that those of you who live in NY, CA, and FL would pay for a grungy teeny condo with no yard in a bad neighborhood. There are two big beautiful rivers near me for boating and fishing. Big city amenities are an easy day trip away when (rarely) desired, and the Black Hills are amazing. Granted, there are way too many republicans here.
We all likes what we likes, and this tournament is just for fun. It's kind of sad to see the huge overpopulated states winning, but population = votes, right?
Go, teams Hawaii and Oregon!
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