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Old 08-25-2022, 10:30 AM
 
Location: USA
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Excellent news for China. So much market share in the battery mineral mining industry. Great news for any foreign supplier of fossil fuels that are needed to produce the batteries for electric vehicles. it’s going to be a windfall for them once the rest of the country gets on the bandwagon.
Exactly! Products from China produced in dirty Coal Fired plants, shipped over on fuel oil powered ships What do you bet China's current green house gas emissions go from twice that of the US to four times "Go China!" "See you Ice caps!"
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:31 AM
 
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California is expected to approve a ban on sales of fossil fueled automobiles tomorrow. The ban will be in full effect (none) by 2035 and fractionally as soon as 2026. California becomes the first government in the world to go this far. It's pretty interesting in that it will create a huge market for EV manufacturers, will likely catch on and spread, and will require some serious efforts to meet the electrical demand of these new vehicles.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/c...emissions.html
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No, California is not alone. After a marathon negotiation session, the 27 countries of the European Union have agreed to effectively ban the sale of new cars and vans powered by petrol and diesel engines by 2035. https://insideevs.com/news/534890/co...-gas-car-bans/

Canada will ban the sale of fuel-burning new cars and light-duty trucks from 2035 in an effort to reach net-zero ... https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-ban-sale-new-fuel-powered-cars-light-trucks-2035-2021-06-29/

Australia follows European Union, bans new ICE vehicle sales from 2035.
https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto...259287936.html
No one is forcing the automakers to develop EV's though....I think I've read that a time or two on this forum.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:33 AM
 
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Exactly! Products from China produced in dirty Coal Fired plants, shipped over on fuel oil powered ships What do you bet China's current green house gas emissions go from twice that of the US to four times "Go China!" "See you Ice caps!"
Which continue to pollute our air, our oceans, and kill our marine wildlife. I didn't know going green was so good for our environment.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Minor quibble here, Florida is the Sunshine State, California is the Golden State.

California has been pushing for no emissions cars for decades. Even though the air is cleaner in LA and other areas than it used to be, it's still bad. I think much of the push for EV's now is more related to that than to a desire to stop climate change, and now that EV's are much more practical for everyday use for the vast majority of drivers, California can put forth mandates that still give over a decade before they are effective.

I see lots of comments about how the grid will not be able to handle the load of EV charging. Is there an analysis of what the impact of EV charging does to consumption, especially if most charging activity occurs overnight, when the grid is normally not at all stressed?
It is only about climate change. It has nothing to do with air pollution.

The push is to reduce CO2 emissions. CO2 does not cause air pollution. CO2 is not a pollutant. At least from the inception of the automobile until 2007, CO2 was never listed as an air pollutant. It was only ruled a pollutant by a liberal Supreme Court in 2007, so it could legally be regulated to fight "global warming".

All of this has been a hoax from the outset. The goal is to starve America of cheap energy, which has a profound negative effect on the economy and quality of life.
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Edinburgh, UK
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Does that mean that Arnie the Governator will have to sell his Humvee? Or will there be exceptions for certain people?
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Old 08-25-2022, 10:39 AM
 
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For those of you who are against any sort of electric vehicles, you do realize that this has happened many times through history, right?

1. Engines replacing horse and buggies
2. Printing presses replacing scribes
3. Robots replacing factory workers
4. Diesel and electric trains replacing steam locomotives

I would imagine that within 20yr, the majority of passenger vehicles will be electric. As technology catches up, electric vehicles will become cheaper and become more efficient.

Think about cell phones from 20yr ago compared to today's phones.
Wind and solar can only supply up to 18 percent of the US’s energy needs.

https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/how-m...-electric-car/
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Old 08-25-2022, 11:38 AM
 
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Currently over 20% of all residents of California live in apartments. Will these complexes be able to put a charger at every parking spot? Who pays for that infrastructure? Landlords?
I guess they think those people will get so fed up waiting hours to charge that they’ll just give up and ride public transportation.
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Old 08-25-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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When we purchased our vehicle at the end of 2018, the salesman at the dealership told us things were headed that way.
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Old 08-25-2022, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Currently over 20% of all residents of California live in apartments. Will these complexes be able to put a charger at every parking spot? Who pays for that infrastructure? Landlords?
It's already been considered, discussed and laws have been passed to deal with it:

http://https://astanehelaw.com/2020/...icles-at-home/
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Old 08-25-2022, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It is pretty amazing actually to imagine southern California without (far, far less) air pollution.
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