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Old 08-25-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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California policies are driving people out (literally) to other states. Gee I wonder why? Let them drive out in electric cars if they want. LOL


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California appears to be on the verge of a new demographic era, one in which population declines characterize the state. Lower levels of international migration, declining birth rates, and increases in deaths all play a role. But the primary driver of the state’s population loss over the past couple years has been the result of California residents moving to other states. It is a remarkable turnaround for California—long the epicenter of population growth in the United States. Even so, it is a continuation of a decades-long slow down.

https://www.ppic.org/blog/whos-leavi...hos-moving-in/
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:18 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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CA has huge billboards saying "Don't move to Texas"......

Maybe CA needs to "build a wall" so taxpayers can't move out.
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:21 AM
 
Location: USA
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How will this play out when folks from other states drive/fly in for their vacations?
The level of administrative dumb in the Sunshine State is mind-boggling.
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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How will this play out when folks from other states drive/fly in for their vacations?
The level of administrative dumb in the Sunshine State is mind-boggling.
Minor quibble here, Florida is the Sunshine State, California is the Golden State.

California has been pushing for no emissions cars for decades. Even though the air is cleaner in LA and other areas than it used to be, it's still bad. I think much of the push for EV's now is more related to that than to a desire to stop climate change, and now that EV's are much more practical for everyday use for the vast majority of drivers, California can put forth mandates that still give over a decade before they are effective.

I see lots of comments about how the grid will not be able to handle the load of EV charging. Is there an analysis of what the impact of EV charging does to consumption, especially if most charging activity occurs overnight, when the grid is normally not at all stressed?
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:48 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Tennessee too. They may be worse than illegals, because they think their birthright gives them license to destroy our way of life.
Yeah they are spreading to Nashville no doubt. They destroy everything in their path with that awful politics they left. It really is like a cancer.
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Define "long after". All it takes is a new law to ban all gas powered cars. Just because THIS law does not do so, does not mean California won't pass such a law in the future.
This will be challenged in the Supreme Court and overturned due to "disparate impact" to poor and minority communities.
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Old 08-25-2022, 07:53 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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As I noted above, the CA law is pointless. The market has been rapidly moving towards EVs. Automakers have already announced their transition plans (by that year or years sooner), but your fake outrage is noted.
Fake?

https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/why-ny...s-and-florida/
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Old 08-25-2022, 08:50 AM
 
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You'll be far less mobile after 2035, and likely hungrier too if they succeed in banning diesel trucks. The great American road trip will be dead.


Of course, you're going to be cold much sooner than that...this winter most likely as natural gas is over $9 a therm right now ($3 a therm this time last year).


Enjoy the great reset folks. They were NOT kidding when they said you'll own nothing and be happy (I'm guessing fully legalized marijuana for pacification purposes).


Soma
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Old 08-25-2022, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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I have several family members with EVs. All of them charge at home at night when electricity demand is low. I'm sure that is what most will do.
Currently over 20% of all residents of California live in apartments. Will these complexes be able to put a charger at every parking spot? Who pays for that infrastructure? Landlords?
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Old 08-25-2022, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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California is expected to approve a ban on sales of fossil fueled automobiles tomorrow. The ban will be in full effect (none) by 2035 and fractionally as soon as 2026. California becomes the first government in the world to go this far. It's pretty interesting in that it will create a huge market for EV manufacturers, will likely catch on and spread, and will require some serious efforts to meet the electrical demand of these new vehicles.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/24/c...emissions.html
Bad move which will accomplish nothing other than enriching democratic party contributors.
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