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Old 04-27-2016, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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That's true, and if salvation is all you're after, you need do nothing more than let His "finished" work be the end of it. Some of us, however, don't want to settle for that.
And some reject the salvation.

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Old 04-27-2016, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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And some reject the salvation.
Yes, potentially so. I don't think there will be that many though, not when all is said and done. After all, we are told that every knee will bow and every tongue confess will confess that Jesus is our Lord and Savior. Obviously, for many it won't be during mortality that this will happen.
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Old 04-27-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Yes, potentially so. I don't think there will be that many though, not when all is said and done. After all, we are told that every knee will bow and every tongue confess will confess that Jesus is our Lord and Savior. Obviously, for many it won't be during mortality that this will happen.
Correct, many go to their graves rejecting God. After that it is too late.

"Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment"

They will bend their knees at judgment.
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Old 04-27-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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Correct, many go to their graves rejecting God. After that it is too late.
On this we will have to agree to disagree.
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Old 04-27-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Clearly, you have never been a lifeguard. There is no extending of a hand to a drowning victim. They are usually panicking and flailing about. Lifeguards give them no choices, they simply haul them to safety.
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Not true with people who do not wish to be hauled in. They might even take the lifeguard down with them, just like the people in the parable of the wedding did when they killed the people presenting the invitation.
Wrong, Finn. Drowning victims are seldom if ever cooperative unless they are unconscious. They always pose a danger to the lifeguard so they are trained specifically to approach them from underwater and behind them. You know that your Savior making an invitation nonsense is complete nonsense . Why do you persist???
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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On this we will have to agree to disagree.
That's fine.
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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You know that your Savior making an invitation nonsense is complete nonsense . Why do you persist???
Yes, I can tell it is nonsense/foolishness to you, but it is what Jesus taught.


the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:13 PM
 
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Those that hold the view that God, in His infinite wisdom and mercy , creates and continues to create billions and billions and billions and billions of people destined for a eternity of suffering constant horrific torment in hell while only a minority make it to heaven should really rethink their God .
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Old 04-27-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Those that hold the view that God, in His infinite wisdom and mercy , creates and continues to create billions and billions and billions and billions of people destined for a eternity of suffering constant horrific torment in hell while only a minority make it to heaven should really rethink their God .
That maybe the fundamentalist view, but not all Christians believe what you are insinuating.
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Old 04-27-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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That maybe the fundamentalist view, but not all Christians believe what you are insinuating.
I know that not all do. That's why I said " those that " do . There was no insinuation. It was plainly stated.
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