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Old 05-28-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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I know. I'm sure the Lord is so pleased
What is your understanding of Jesus being the light that lights everyone coming into the world
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:31 PM
 
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heh-heh, it continues:

He came into the very world he created, but the world didn’t recognize him. 11 He came to his own people, and even they rejected him. 12 But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God

LOL. The cherry picking and presenting verses out of context never ends.
Finn I am not cherry picking I was asking how does Jesus light every man who comes into the world
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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What is your understanding of Jesus being the light that lights everyone coming into the world
I believe he gives light to every man, but many do not see the light which is evident in the following verses.
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:49 PM
 
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I believe he gives light to every man, but many do not see the light which is evident in the following verses.
That is obvious by evil deeds and thoughts from both christian and non christian alike ................

Our carnal natures brings forth bad fruit and is to be consumed be fire -- what sort of light does he give every man? --- if it is a spoken gospel of believe in Jesus and be saved from eternal hell what light has been given to those that we know never heard of Jesus so they never had a chance to be saved from the eternal hell?
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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That is obvious by evil deeds and thoughts from both christian and non christian alike ................

Our carnal natures brings forth bad fruit and is to be consumed be fire -- what sort of light does he give every man? --- if it is a spoken gospel of believe in Jesus and be saved from eternal hell what light has been given to those that we know never heard of Jesus so they never had a chance to be saved from the eternal hell?
I leave that up to the Lord. I believe He reveals Himself to everyone.
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:40 PM
 
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I leave that up to the Lord. I believe He reveals Himself to everyone.
IMO you are not seeking truth with your whole heart and soul -- you are content to hear a message that saves you from an eternal hell and gives you life forever, And I know/suspect that in your opinion you think I am deceived by Satan.

You do not see the verses that say that Israel profaned Gods name among the heathen, and told lies in his name.

From what I can see Christians think that the Israelites/Jews did not record the profanity in their writings ---- but we are told that the scribes (the writers that record) and the prophets and priests (those that mediate between God and his people) were dealing falsely.

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Jer 8:5 Why then is this people of Jerusalem slidden back by a perpetual backsliding? they hold fast deceit, they refuse to return.
Jer 8:6 I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle.
Jer 8:7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.
Jer 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
Jer 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?
Jer 8:10 Therefore will I give their wives unto others, and their fields to them that shall inherit them: for every one from the least even unto the greatest is given to covetousness, from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
Jer 8:11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
Jer 8:12 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall: in the time of their visitation they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

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Eze 36:20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
Eze 36:21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

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Old 05-28-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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IMO you are not seeking truth with your whole heart and soul -- you are content to hear a message that saves you from an eternal hell and gives you life forever, And I know/suspect that in your opinion you think I am deceived by Satan.

You do not see the verses that say that Israel profaned Gods name among the heathen, and told lies in his name.

From what I can see Christians think that the Israelites/Jews did not record the profanity in their writings ---- but we are told that the scribes (the writers that record) and the prophets and priests (those that mediate between God and his people) were dealing falsely.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you and I are on two different pages.
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you and I are on two different pages.
Obviously!!
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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Obviously!!
What you wrote had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:30 PM
 
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That is obvious by evil deeds and thoughts from both christian and non christian alike ................

Our carnal natures brings forth bad fruit and is to be consumed be fire -- what sort of light does he give every man? --- if it is a spoken gospel of believe in Jesus and be saved from eternal hell what light has been given to those that we know never heard of Jesus so they never had a chance to be saved from the eternal hell?
meerkat, please show me in the scripture that says there are ..... "those that we know never heard of Jesus so they never had a chance to be saved from the eternal hell" ?

You keep making this statement and I would like to know where you are reading this in the word !!!
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