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Old 01-26-2013, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Dixie's Sunny Shore
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Fair enough, but SEC might take them.
Very true.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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*sigh*

Just get FSU and Clemson already.
^^^
This.

Probably won't happen though. Bowlsby and Co. got their thumbs up their hindquarters, reactive instead of proactive.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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Report: Gee calls Big Ten expansion talks 'ongoing' in meeting - CBSSports.com

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Expansion one of several items on Big 12 agenda - CBSSports.com

I think the ACC+BIG 12 talks are interesting.

Apparently Big East is looking to add a 12th team.

Big East wants to add 12th school, keep name - ESPN
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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Fair enough, but SEC might take them.
We don't want em! You keep em!
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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We don't want em! You keep em!
They have potential.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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How would a 24 team dual conference work? You can't merge the mediocre ACC with the Big 12. Few schools yes, but losers would have to be cut.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:33 AM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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I rarely agree with what this guy claims, but Premise#3 is legitimate: The Dude of WV on WVU

Big XII needs to expand. We, at the very least, need a conference championship game. We can't do that without at least 12 members (and I'm guessing the NCAA will not change that per Bowlsby's request).

If the Big XII doesn't expand very soon (within the next couple of years), I could see the likelihood of 3-20 team super-conferences (read B1G, PAC, SEC) instead of 4-16 super-conferences. The best teams from the Big XII/ACC will simply be absorbed into the Big 3.

I really hope that Texas/Oklahoma aren't driving the bus on expansion....they know they can wait the full 12 years until the grant of rights runs its course then go make more money in the PAC. But everyone else (with the exception of maybe Kansas) in the Big XII? Up a creek. The other 8 members need to put hard pressure on Oklahoma/Texas to expand.

I just hope Bowlsby doesn't cower to OK/TX (especially Texas and Deloss Dodds) like his successor did. We all saw where that got us.....goodbye Nebraska (one of the most storied programs in college football!), goodbye A&M (huge fanbase and revenue stream).
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:15 AM
 
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They have potential.
So keep them.
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Old 02-02-2013, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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expansion is going to hinge on which ACC team leaves first.

is UVA or/and UNC going to take a Big 10 invitation if its offered, or are FSU or Clemson going to bolt if they even think its possible.

once one of those dominoes fall, the ACC is done. The other conferences will pick them apart.

2 schools to the Big 10, 2 the Big 12, 2 to the SEC.

the SEC does want the North Carolina market. They would much rather have UNC, but they will take NC State. I doubt the Big 10 would want Va Tech so im guessing that is who the SEC will take for a second team.

Clemson and FSU to the Big 12, the Big 10 will take UVA and UNC.

The remaining ACC will invite the remaining Big EAST.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:06 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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expansion is going to hinge on which ACC team leaves first.

is UVA or/and UNC going to take a Big 10 invitation if its offered, or are FSU or Clemson going to bolt if they even think its possible.

once one of those dominoes fall, the ACC is done. The other conferences will pick them apart.

2 schools to the Big 10, 2 the Big 12, 2 to the SEC.

the SEC does want the North Carolina market. They would much rather have UNC, but they will take NC State. I doubt the Big 10 would want Va Tech so im guessing that is who the SEC will take for a second team.

Clemson and FSU to the Big 12, the Big 10 will take UVA and UNC.

The remaining ACC will invite the remaining Big EAST.
The Big XII should swing for the fence and try to add 4: Virginia Tech, FSU, Clemson, and NC State (if one of these won't come along then go back hard to get Louisville before it officially joins ACC). That would give the Big XII teams all up and down the eastern seaboard of the South, as well as much closer rivals for West Virginia. Great recruiting and great fanbases. If the Big XII does not expand to the east, then the West Virginia addition makes ZERO sense. Hopefully this was all by design by Bowlsby & Co. and they're just waiting for the right time to be proactive (how 'bout now!).

After going to 14, the Big XII could potentially wait for BYU and possibly Notre Dame in the future to round out the conference with two big programs. These teams listed (+ G-Tech and Miami, to a much lesser extent and USF) give the Big XII the best chance of positioning itself as one of the Big Dogs in the future. No other teams are legitimate revenue builders, and the ones that are have already wisely been scooped up by the other Big 3 = PAC/SEC/B1G.

If Bowlsby & Big XII stand pat, then all Big XII fans need to prepare themselves for a perpetual drift of the conference into mediocrity as the grant of rights plays out. After the grant of rights, Oklahoma and Texas will be in the PAC. And it's goodbye Big XII.
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