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Old 03-27-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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"I.M.F. Prepares $18 Billion in Loans for Ukraine"

"The agreement...will hinge on the country taking steps to let the value of its currency float downward, to cut corruption and red tape, and, crucially, to reduce huge state subsidies for the consumption of natural gas."

"...loans from the United States and from the I.M.F. would be structured to get the government through its first few months without undue political upheaval, putting off some of the more difficult changes until after the May election."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/wo...lout.html?_r=0
Welcome to my parlor said a spider to a fly.

( That's the comment I've already seen somewhere - not my invention, honestly.)
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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Welcome to my parlor said a spider to a fly.

( That's the comment I've already seen somewhere - not my invention, honestly.)
Sure.

But is that not what Ukraine wanted and why the unrest began in the first place?

Therefore, this development looks rather natural to me.

Besides, I don't have the impression that they are doing it against their will. And as long as this is the case, I don't see any problem with that choice... yet

I do think that many things can go wrong, though.

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Old 03-27-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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P.S. And while we are at that, can you please deny or confirm this report that I see on RT -

"The recent robbing of passengers, traveling from Russia to Moldova via Ukraine’s territory, by a local ultra-nationalist Insurgent Army is a manifestation of “anarchy,” the Russian Foreign Ministry has said.
On March 21, the train, en route from Moscow to the capital of Moldova, Chisinau, made a scheduled stop in the city of Vinnitsa in central Ukraine.
To the horror of passengers…people dressed in the uniform of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) got into carriages and began a ‘document check’. People who showed Russian passports were then made to hand over their money and golden jewelry,” the Russian Ministry said on Monday in a statement published on its website.
The robbery was accompanied with “political sensitization,” diplomats said.
Moscow also said it was “bewildered” by the refusal of the Ukrainian police to take any action when the victims attempted to file a report."


http://rt.com/news/anarchy-ukraine-train-robbery-873/


RT is obviously not my favorite source of information, but if what they are saying is true...
Well if Russians can steal Crimea, I guess Ukrainians can steal some Russian jewlery.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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Statement by the Press Secretary on Ukraine

"The agreement is expected to unlock roughly $27 billion in total support from the international community for Ukraine's people over the next two years, as the country implements historic reforms to address long-standing problems that have undermined Ukraine’s economic strength and prosperity."

"The IMF program will be a central component of a package of assistance to support Ukraine as it implements reforms and conducts free and fair elections that will allow all the Ukrainian people to determine the future of their country. "

Statement by the Press Secretary on Ukraine | The White House
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:58 AM
 
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"Ukraine's new leaders announced a radical 50% increase in the price of domestic gas on Wednesday with effect from 1 May, meeting an unpopular IMF condition that Yanukovych had refused."

IMF agrees bailout for Ukraine | World news | theguardian.com
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Sure.

But is that not what Ukraine wanted and why the unrest began in the first place?

Therefore, this development looks rather natural to me.

Besides, I don't have the impression that they are doing it against their will. And as long as this is the case, I don't see any problem with that choice... yet

I do think that many things can go wrong, though.
And those are my thoughts as well, but I guess the show must go on.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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And those are my thoughts as well, but I guess the show must go on.
I guess so.

Let's prepare for the show. In one of his posts, Remember Mee suggested to buy a lot of popcorn.

I don't like too much junk food, though.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:23 AM
 
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End of that chapter then.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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And those are my thoughts as well, but I guess the show must go on.
Do you have any idea how Russia might react?
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Well if Russians can steal Crimea, I guess Ukrainians can steal some Russian jewlery.
Well I guess they can, but why give Putin more cards, when Eastern Ukraine is at stake?
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