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Old 02-04-2021, 08:40 PM
DKM
 
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Hi guys, I'm from Ukraine. Sorry to write this, but our country has a very bad financial situation. Because of the coronavirus, I'm lost his job and was forced to take a loan from the bank in order to somehow live. Now I have found a new job, but half of my salary ~ $ 150 goes to utility bills, the rest of the money I can't even close the loan. I ask you for help, because I no longer know where to ask for it. Need ~ $ 1400 to close your debt in the bank. Sorry for my bad english.
1400 rubles coming your way. That's about what, 10 bucks?
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:54 PM
 
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1400 rubles coming your way. That's about what, 10 bucks?
We have hryvnias, not rubles. Don't confuse us with Russia.
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:35 AM
 
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We have hryvnias, not rubles. Don't confuse us with Russia.

I think that he is implying that you are a *Russian troll," and not a Ukrainian.


"Real Ukrainians" are happy with the life in your country, the rest are "Russian propagandists."

That's what he wants to make us believe.
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Old 02-05-2021, 12:38 AM
 
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We have hryvnias, not rubles. Don't confuse us with Russia.
No no, the DKM tells us well here that Ukraine has long had an economic breakthrough and prosperity.European roads, European houses, hyperloops and barbershops at every turn. So a person from Ukraine can not have any financial problems .
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Old 02-05-2021, 11:52 AM
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No no, the DKM tells us well here that Ukraine has long had an economic breakthrough and prosperity.European roads, European houses, hyperloops and barbershops at every turn. So a person from Ukraine can not have any financial problems .
Not in Donetsk where this "Ukrainian" is from. Its Russian standard of living there. I wish them luck.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:25 PM
 
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Zelensky is a liar. This move is about one thing, silencing the opposition. He is living in fear. It's the same pattern I'm seeing here in America. Democrats silencing the opposition.

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/zel...n-tv-channels/

You are correct Erasure.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:29 PM
 
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We have hryvnias, not rubles. Don't confuse us with Russia.
If you are truly Ukrainian begging on a forum is not what you need to be doing. You shouldn't have to. Think about it. I have confused Russians and Ukrainians before, there are more similarities than some would like to admit. At the end of the day Russians are your brothers and sisters, your family. Those to the west are the people of the street, they are your masters, your pimps.

I suggest Ukrainians change this arrangement.
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Old 02-05-2021, 06:48 PM
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Zelensky is a liar. This move is about one thing, silencing the opposition. He is living in fear. It's the same pattern I'm seeing here in America. Democrats silencing the opposition.

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/zel...n-tv-channels/

You are correct Erasure.
There has long been an opinion in Western Ukraine that Zelensky was a pro-Russian politician. But after his move on blocking Medvedchuk's channels, many who loathe Zelensky have their reality picture fractured. And now moderately patriotic citizens of Ukraine will at least start looking closely at the president.


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If you are truly Ukrainian begging on a forum is not what you need to be doing. You shouldn't have to. Think about it. I have confused Russians and Ukrainians before, there are more similarities than some would like to admit. At the end of the day Russians are your brothers and sisters, your family. Those to the west are the people of the street, they are your masters, your pimps.

I suggest Ukrainians change this arrangement.
Ukraine's minimum wage is higher than Russia. Their goal is to be like Poland (more money, free life, stability) than Russia (poverty, instability and no freedom). Doesn't really matter if you agree or like it.
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Old 02-05-2021, 07:02 PM
 
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Zelensky is a liar. This move is about one thing, silencing the opposition. He is living in fear. It's the same pattern I'm seeing here in America. Democrats silencing the opposition.

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/zel...n-tv-channels/

You are correct Erasure.

Yes Scrat - the Democrats are doing it simultaneously.

They are suppressing the dissent at home and they are suppressing the dissent in Ukraine ( with the help of the Nazis and Zelensky, who bowed to them.)

Dubinsky, who was supporting Zelensky for long time, in spite of being expelled from his party after American sanctions and his banned Youtube channel, for the first time made a public statement on the last Ukrainian functioning opposition TV channel.

He said that Zelensky's decision was unconstitutional and thus illegal, and this kind of actions ( no court, no laws,) pushes Ukraine on a dangerous path of typical third world country.

The yellow poster that you see on the right around 1:02, is a Nazi-produced poster calling "to smash the vermin leftovers" - i.e. the last opposition channel, where Dubinsky made his public appearance.
That's the TV station that was attacked by the Nazi yesterday, but which is not connected to Taras Kozak ( or Medvedchuk as it is insinuated.) In fact, from what I understand this particular channel is owned by the oligarch Rinat Akhmetov.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8m76nSqkcU


In other news - Dmitry Razumkov, the speaker of Rada, pointed at Zelensky's actions as illegal and anti-constitutional as well, and refused to vote for the closure of channels.

The openly pro-Russian "Opposition Platform" ( whose ratings are already higher than of Zelensky's "Servant of the People" party) initiated the impeachment of Zelensky.
But as Elena Lukash, former Minister of Justice of Ukraine pointed out, that as desirable as it is, "it will be very difficult to achieve it, since the way this procedure has been proscribed when Zelensky was taking presidential office, it was proscribed with the purpose of protecting him as much as possible."

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Old 02-05-2021, 07:39 PM
 
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There has long been an opinion in Western Ukraine that Zelensky was a pro-Russian politician. But after his move on blocking Medvedchuk's channels, many who loathe Zelensky have their reality picture fractured. And now moderately patriotic citizens of Ukraine will at least start looking closely at the president.

No DKM, no, it's actually even worse than that.

The opinion of Western Ukrainians of Zelensky was that he was BORN IN THE EASTERN PART OF UKRAINE, and thus he was the "second sort of Ukrainian" by default. ( Not to mention the activities of his "Kvartal 95" show, which lived off the satire on Poroshenko's government.)

So in order to prove that he was a "true patriotic Ukrainian," he turned backwards - he stopped speaking his native Russian, he let the Nazi rule Ukraine and so on.

He is definitely afraid of them, I know that much - they threatened his life on numerous occasions already.
So instead of his original plan "to unite Western and Eastern parts of Ukraine," ( which is really impossible,) he submitted the Eastern part of Ukraine under the Western one, while in reality the Easterners were voting for him, hoping for the opposite - that he would defend their rights, violated under Poroshenko.



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Ukraine's minimum wage is higher than Russia.
Tell these fairy tales elsewhere.



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Their goal is to be like Poland (more money, free life, stability) than Russia (poverty, instability and no freedom). Doesn't really matter if you agree or like it.
We are aware of their "goals" and "dreams" and "aspirations."
But we are aware of their reality as well.
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